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Just had this convo at my Chevrolet dealer. Ordered our 2015 C7 Z51 Vert M-7 new from them. They are a MSRP dealer. I asked about the Z06. I was told they will sell me one at MSRP BUT I need to make a charitable donation to an organization on their list they give you. That donation has to be $50k. Oh, I would be number 21 in line on the waiting list if I did it that day.

MSRP deals on the 22 GT500 are out there. Myself and a couple others have secured them. The frustrating part is the waiting game. Below MSRP? LOL. You're probably a brother in law to the GM or something.
dealer by me in NJ does the same thing
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Create your own Klinton-style charitable organization and push to get it on the list.

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cant even find a C8 Stingray less thank 20k ADM let alone a ZO6.
 

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If you can wait it out, find something low miles used, and don't pay ADM if you can't afford it.
 

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If you can wait it out, find something low miles used, and don't pay ADM if you can't afford it.
idk. Used with 5k miles start at $90k right now.
 

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I just took delivery of my 2021 a few days ago and in Houston I bought mine for $1800 under sticker. Find a large volume dealer and you can likely get a discount. I went through autonation.
I called Autonation on GT500 they had addrevtised for MSRP and available in stockin Ga. I called and the sales associate said there is a $25k ADM on an MSRP of $87k and change. Of course I said I’ll pass and thanks for letting me know so I didn’t waste my time or theirs. Autonation is on the same ADM bandwagon as other dealers with ridiculous ADMs. I just ordered myself a new Charger SRT Hellcat under invoice with just a $429 Doc fee.
 

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My buddy wanted to trade his 2021 every option silver non cftp, for a 2022 cftp and the dealer said 79k u wont get more, meanwhile they wanted 50k adm for the cftp
 

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I called Autonation on GT500 they had addrevtised for MSRP and available in stockin Ga. I called and the sales associate said there is a $25k ADM on an MSRP of $87k and change. Of course I said I’ll pass and thanks for letting me know so I didn’t waste my time or theirs. Autonation is on the same ADM bandwagon as other dealers with ridiculous ADMs. I just ordered myself a new Charger SRT Hellcat under invoice with just a $429 Doc fee.
called a few dealerships this week, lowest was 18k ADM.
 

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My buddy wanted to trade his 2021 every option silver non cftp, for a 2022 cftp and the dealer said 79k u wont get more, meanwhile they wanted 50k adm for the cftp
That’s crazy isn’t it. Dealers are out of control lately.
 

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That’s crazy isn’t it. Dealers are out of control lately.
It's not the dealers. It's Ford.

Firstly, Ford was creating this nonsense long before the scamdemic wrecked the world economy and supply chains and before any felt chip shortages. They called the CFTP a "golden ticket" for Christ's sake. They INTENTIONALLY choked production numbers.

It doesn't take a doctorate in economics to understand that when there's LIMITED supplies and high demand, vendors will be able to charge elevated prices (and get it).

When the riots were in full swing and people were panic buying firearms, I saw an interview by a local gun shop owner who said "I don't want to charge $3k for a $1k gun, but I can't get replacement supply. That gun I'm selling you off the wall, it's the last I'll see for who knows how long. I'm not trying to rape anyone, I simply can not get any more supply from any of the manufacturers or distributors."

Dealers could try, but would not be successful if they tried to charge ADM on vehicles that are very common. You'd just go down the street to the next dealer and buy one for MSRP or less. But when Ford limits the production, that option goes out the window. The few dealers that have them KNOW they have a very limited product and they know that they can get much higher than MSRP for it (eventually someone with more money than sense or wants it REALLY REALLY bad will pay).

Don't blame the dealers, blame Ford. What's even more madness is that Ford sets the MSRP. They're cutting their own throat by choking supply to the point that dealers are getting above MSRP. They could either set the MSRP higher (and pocket the additional profits instead of the dealer) OR they could make more product and sell way more volume (if people are paying above).

I get the whole "halo car" bullshit, but it makes no sense. GM actually rewards their loyal vette owners by ensuring they get deals BETTER than new buyers.

Now that covid supply disruptions are here and the chip shortages are taking even more of a toll, limited supplies is understandable. But Ford was doing this bullshit INTENTIONALLY before all that.
 

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These complaints on a Mustang forum (which surely leans conservative) scream “free market till it doesn’t suit me”….
 
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I called Autonation on GT500 they had addrevtised for MSRP and available in stockin Ga. I called and the sales associate said there is a $25k ADM on an MSRP of $87k and change. Of course I said I’ll pass and thanks for letting me know so I didn’t waste my time or theirs. Autonation is on the same ADM bandwagon as other dealers with ridiculous ADMs. I just ordered myself a new Charger SRT Hellcat under invoice with just a $429 Doc fee.
Easy to get a hellcat for MSRP or less, no one wants them lol.
 

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How do people not understand basic economics. You want something no one has. Dealers selling cftp 50k over are selling them because someone is willing to pay it.

i paid a lot of money for a new GT500 ford performance front splitter from a supplier, who also bought it over list price To get them.

These cars arent for everyone…..theyre exclusive to be honest.
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