ADM and Tesla

[Trackaholic]

1125 is the SVT front rotors- $296.75 each
FR3Z-2C026-C is the SVT rear rotors- $295.52 each
FR3Z-2001-J front pads- $283.18
FR3Z-2200-E rear pads $151.67

The parts alone are $1618.99. This is from fordparts.com so the prices may vary.

Ok around $2,000 with labor. The point remains.

Cool to see prices showing up in the Ford Parts catalog.

To be fair, if you price the standard brakes from the catalog, then prices will also look quite high compared to Pep Boys. I suspect there may be some aftermarket opportunities for GT350 rotors and pads at some point, if one wanted to go that route (although they would probably be very performance oriented, and therefore maybe not much cheaper than the OEM components).

This actually doesn't seem too bad. Pads are expensive, but value will depend on how long they last. Ford has said that their goal was to allow the use of OEM pads on the track, which would be pretty sweet as it means you wouldn't need to be swapping pads in and out for track days. If that truly is the case, then $300 for pads is about what I pay for Performance Friction pads on my 350Z. Expensive, but they last a long time. Given how tough it looks to swap pads in the GT350 due to the integral bridge, I'm hoping that the stock pads will indeed hold up well.

As far as rotors go, those prices I think are similar to the price for the iron portion of my front Stoptechs. Although it's been a long time since I've replaced rotors (even with the track oriented pads), so I may not be remembering correctly.

In any case, it is possible that the price for these components end up being reasonable for street driving due to their longevity. One can hope for that at least.

-T

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[krt22]

1125 is the SVT front rotors- $296.75 each
FR3Z-2C026-C is the SVT rear rotors- $295.52 each
FR3Z-2001-J front pads- $283.18
FR3Z-2200-E rear pads $151.67

The parts alone are $1618.99. This is from fordparts.com so the prices may vary.

Ok around $2,000 with labor. The point remains.

Really not a bad price on the rotors given the size and 2 piece construction. Can likely get them for less than list as well

 

[Rated R]

Don't "NEED TO ACCEPT" anything Randy...I mostly enjoy this forum but get really pissed off when I start reading about Tesla, political nonsense and ADM. It's mostly whining about not being able to afford an R model because of the markup. Truth be known, most of the whiners probably would not be able to afford to maintain the car properly even if they could buy the car in the first place! I ordered at MSRP and fortunately had a Ford dealer friend to help me but now I've basically decided to pick my topics to read more carefully so as to avoid seeing this crap. It's better for my blood pressure and peace of mind! Anyway, that off my chest, I am excited about getting my new R and look forward to seeing the really positive stuff that will start appearing once cars begin to be delivered.

OK don't accept it. Just understand that you will continue to see a post about ADM every single day you visit this forum or any other. ADM and Shelbys go together like PB&J. That's reality, if you choose not to accept it thats not anyone's problem but your own....:doh:

 

[Blk2015GT]

Cool to see prices showing up in the Ford Parts catalog.

To be fair, if you price the standard brakes from the catalog, then prices will also look quite high compared to Pep Boys. I suspect there may be some aftermarket opportunities for GT350 rotors and pads at some point, if one wanted to go that route (although they would probably be very performance oriented, and therefore maybe not much cheaper than the OEM components).

This actually doesn't seem too bad. Pads are expensive, but value will depend on how long they last. Ford has said that their goal was to allow the use of OEM pads on the track, which would be pretty sweet as it means you wouldn't need to be swapping pads in and out for track days. If that truly is the case, then $300 for pads is about what I pay for Performance Friction pads on my 350Z. Expensive, but they last a long time. Given how tough it looks to swap pads in the GT350 due to the integral bridge, I'm hoping that the stock pads will indeed hold up well.

As far as rotors go, those prices I think are similar to the price for the iron portion of my front Stoptechs. Although it's been a long time since I've replaced rotors (even with the track oriented pads), so I may not be remembering correctly.

In any case, it is possible that the price for these components end up being reasonable for street driving due to their longevity. One can hope for that at least.

-T

I doubt there will be much in the GT350 aftermarket part demand with the low volume of production especially initially; unless the components match another vehicle which I don't believe they do. Plus like you said since the 350 is a track-oriented car to begin with I doubt they'd be for daily driving purposes. That's not factoring in track use will just make the brakes jobs more frequent too.

It's not that expensive in the scheme of things, no, but the original point was the ADM whiners better be ready to pony up on maintenance and repairs on this car, they will be double a normal GT. Whining about a $5k ADM makes no sense when one brake job could potentially cost half that and could be needed to be done a few times a year if you track it. If you can't afford well over MSRP overall comfortably then it's not a smart financial buy.

 

[Rated R]

If you can't afford well over MSRP overall comfortably then it's not a smart financial buy.

Just because you can afford to pay an ADM doesn't necessarily mean it's an intelligent decision to go forward with.

 

[chopsui]

I doubt that the people who wont pay a 5k ADM because they can't afford it are going to be tracking their car. Certainly not enough to have to replace rotors every year. Tracking regularly is an expensive hobby. Anyone who tracks that much will stay within their means in order to afford track fees and consumables.

That said, don't assume that everyone complaining about ADM can't afford it. Most rich people are cheap bastards. That's how they got rich!

 

[Trackaholic]

I doubt there will be much in the GT350 aftermarket part demand with the low volume of production especially initially; unless the components match another vehicle which I don't believe they do. Plus like you said since the 350 is a track-oriented car to begin with I doubt they'd be for daily driving purposes. That's not factoring in track use will just make the brakes jobs more frequent too.

It's not that expensive in the scheme of things, no, but the original point was the ADM whiners better be ready to pony up on maintenance and repairs on this car, they will be double a normal GT. Whining about a $5k ADM makes no sense when one brake job could potentially cost half that and could be needed to be done a few times a year if you track it. If you can't afford well over MSRP overall comfortably then it's not a smart financial buy.

Well, hopefully the pads are a relatively standard size. If so, there may already be a good aftermarket.

I also think that even if you track the car quite a bit, you'll only be replacing pads regularly (especially of the OEM pads can handle the track). They will probably not be very aggressive and the rotors will likely last quite a long time. Changing one's own pads is probably something any frequent track visitor can do. I therefore don't think the cost will be as high as you make out, and even if it is, I still think it is fair to be annoyed with ADM (but agree that we don't need to bring it up in every thread).

-T

 

[Hack]

If you can't afford well over MSRP overall comfortably then it's not a smart financial buy.

No new car is a smart financial buy, especially if you are planning to thrash it on the track. Most of us want the GT350 as a fun toy, and hopefully our 401k, etc. are already in good shape before we decide to purchase any new car.

Smart financial decisions are to buy older, cheap, beat up 4 cylinder cars... and to invest in retirement before spending money on cars except as necessary for transportation.

It would also be smarter financially to wait 2-3 years and buy a GT350 used than to buy one new. There will be nice, low miles examples available for many thousands less than what people are paying now.

 

[stanglife]

It would also be smarter financially to wait 2-3 years and buy a GT350 used than to buy one new. There will be nice, low miles examples available for many thousands less than what people are paying now.

Especially after the GT500 hits the shelves.

 

[Cruzinaround]

People whine about a $5k ADM but then don't realize doing pads/rotors alone on any 350 model is going to be $2,500; not a couple hundred bucks like a normal GT take it to Pep Boy or Midas. If you can't afford ADM then you can't afford to maintain the car to buy one to begin with and are just sinking yourself into the American Dream of debt buying more than you can afford trying to live like the Joneses. Get yourself a nice GT and save $10-20k in an account and enjoy the car not going into huge debt to own one.

"If you can't afford to pay over MSRP = You can't afford the cost of ownership"??? That's the dumbest qualifier ever. For many of us its not whether we can afford it or not...its a principle of not wanting to just throw away money. Comparing it to maintenance on a vehicle is silly. Wear and tear is an expected occurrence for any vehicle that anyone who owns a vehicle and is responsible factors into the cost of ownership and the maintenance is something tangible that is planned for. Its something that can be quantified and is not imaginary like the big void of nothing that you're paying for when you hand over all that money over the MSRP.

"Not Wanting to Pay an ADM for nothing = Money not wasted during my cost of ownership"

If you live check to check then this is not the car for you. In fact maybe a pair of shoes and a bus ticket is the best mode of transportation for someone like that.

Now someone harping on the cost of brake parts and pads and saying that is a reason to charge ADM's? Seriously? This is your argument for why you should pay an ADM? Because you can afford the brake maintenance? Is this what the salesman told you? Did you bother to look behind your back to see them laughing at you? If anything its something you're worried about and trying to justify to the rest of us. But, guess what....if maintenance is required down the road for anyone, its a bridge they cross when they get there.

We are all different here. We all have different driving habits and of course may not all be taking these cars to the HPDE events or doing the racecar thing everyday. However, as a daily driver alternative to an M series or an AMG or a Porsche etc etc etc. ...the cost of maintenance will more than likely be on par if any of us were to step into the ownership of a GT350 or any other performance car of any other make and model that is in the 50k to 70k range. If you track cars already you know it's an expensive hobby. Tires and brakes and suspension and lubrication and shoes and gear and fees and travel etc, etc,.......All adds up.

So your point is what? You paid the ADM so you can definitely afford to maintain the vehicle? Is that what you say to people who didn't pay the ADM and can also afford to maintain the vehicle? Or maybe you ask them if you can borrow some of the money they saved not paying it so you can replace your brakes since you paid that much and more over MSRP to own your car and it didn't come with a prepaid scheduled brake pad and rotor replacement?

Really?

Think about it.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Especially after the GT500 hits the shelves.

If its anything like what's going on now with the Boss 302's ....there will be many examples for sale at or above what they retailed for normally. Which will translate into a bigger loss for those who originally purchased them above the MSRP.

Just saying

 

[healntoe]

OK don't accept it. Just understand that you will continue to see a post about ADM every single day you visit this forum or any other. ADM and Shelbys go together like PB&J. That's reality, if you choose not to accept it thats not anyone's problem but your own....:doh:

Randy I did not intend to get anyone twisted here, just tired of hearing the same old stuff that really does not have anything to do with this awesome automobile. I am a big believer in the market going where the market will go -- so if someone wants to spend more to get a product and not wait until the price stabilizes, then they ought to have the option to do so without being beaten up on this site. I believe that the ADM's will disappear in 6 months or less and buying a GT350, or R at MSRP or below will be possible. I just don't think that there should be any sort of controls imposed on the market for ANY product and I believe this is one of the things that is so great about living in this country...no ill will intended.
Jim

 

[healntoe]

So because you got VIP treatment ...

Yes I did get VIP treatment...bought enough Fords from him to put s couple of his kids through college.

 

[Brad]

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