Adaptive Cruise Control

[foghat]

So you don't see any advantage in picking up the pace to get by a semi, or at the start of a hill (as in before CC would sense any need to add throttle), or to make the car feel more stable on a curve? Feel free to disregard that last one if you don't enjoy the corners more than you do the straights; you just won't get it.

To drone along on CC is to throw away some of the fun and part of the challenge of trying to drive better all by yourself.

Norm

That is not what I am saying at all. What type of roads do you think people are using CC on?? It is not on a race track or mountain passes (well, maybe depending on the pass).

Yes I will zip by a semi when I come upon one.

I am not using cruise up in the mountains, any road I am using CC on has plenty of straights (often for miles) and does not have turns that warrant making the car feel more stable - think long sweeping turns.

If you'd rather not use CC, fine, I don't really care. The point being is that when on the highway, generally speaking, one is going at fairly constant speed. Yes there are times (as you point out) where it makes good sense to accelerate.

So, yes, it was asinine to suggest that because one goes a constant speed on a highway, that one is better off driving a camry.

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[nutte]

So, yes, it was asinine to suggest that because one goes a constant speed on a highway, that one is better off driving a camry.

I wrote "as well" drive a Camry. I could of course have mentioned any car brand and model, as you would be fine cruising in constant speed in any currently available car.

I don't really see a point in the arguing; it's just a matter of accepting that people have very different driving skills.
To me, it's unthinkable to turn on the cruise control, at any time or place. I would be overly bored and think I might as well be a passenger. For you who choose to use it, please continue to do so. I obviously don't care at all that other people use it. I'm from Europe and haven't really heard of anyone using cruise control, so I guess I got a little bit surprised that it appears to be so frequently used.



Edit: With "...different driving skills" I meant to point out that people have different preferences and taste. When re-reading what I wrote above I realize my wording might be off. I did not in any way intend to refer to whether a person is a good driver or not.

 

[wilkinda65]

this has turned into one stupidest threads on here..... arguing over using or not using cruise control??? seriously?? GTFOH....

 

[foghat]

this has turned into one stupidest threads on here..... arguing over using or not using cruise control??? seriously?? GTFOH....

Welcome to the interwebz. Where everything, no matter how trivial or silly, has the right to a debate/lively discussion!

 

[foghat]

I wrote "as well" drive a Camry. I could of course have mentioned any car brand and model, as you would be fine cruising in constant speed in any currently available car.

I don't really see a point in the arguing; it's just a matter of accepting that people have very different driving skills.
To me, it's unthinkable to turn on the cruise control, at any time or place. I would be overly bored and think I might as well be a passenger. For you who choose to use it, please continue to do so. I obviously don't care at all that other people use it. I'm from Europe and haven't really heard of anyone using cruise control, so I guess I got a little bit surprised that it appears to be so frequently used.

Maybe I misunderstood. Read to me (and still does) that if you are going to drive at a constant speed on the highway, you might as well drive a camry. i.e.you don't appreciate sporty cars.

I agree no point in arguing. Though I do disagree that different driving skills can be used as the reason for whether one uses CC or not.

 

[FordBlueHeart]

I wrote "as well" drive a Camry. I could of course have mentioned any car brand and model, as you would be fine cruising in constant speed in any currently available car.

I don't really see a point in the arguing; it's just a matter of accepting that people have very different driving skills.
To me, it's unthinkable to turn on the cruise control, at any time or place. I would be overly bored and think I might as well be a passenger. For you who choose to use it, please continue to do so. I obviously don't care at all that other people use it. I'm from Europe and haven't really heard of anyone using cruise control, so I guess I got a little bit surprised that it appears to be so frequently used.

Welcome to America! Now get out there and do some serious driving long distance and you will be singing a new tune. I drive 1000 miles a week on average with some days equaling 400 miles plus working. Cruise is extremely important for safety and taking care of the monotony. I'm excited for the adaptive cruise and obstacle detection/ collision prevention.

 

[Swoope]

So you don't see any advantage in picking up the pace to get by a semi, or at the start of a hill (as in before CC would sense any need to add throttle), or to make the car feel more stable on a curve? Feel free to disregard that last one if you don't enjoy the corners more than you do the straights; you just won't get it.

To drone along on CC is to throw away some of the fun and part of the challenge of trying to drive better all by yourself.


Norm

you know you can accelerate and decelerate using the cruise control.. it is kinda like being really good with a manual transmission! :lol:

but i know you are not that guy in the left lane going between 65 an 75 depending on who comes up behind them..

beers

 

[tsunami]

I, for one, wish that more people would use their cruise control. I'm cruising down the freeway and a car ahead of me starts to slow down for no reason (no braking). If there are cars in the other lane I have to slow down. Finally I get room to pass him and as soon as I pass him...he speeds up and then switches to my lane. Then, he slows down again. And we start all over again. This type of driver just seems to be unable to allow faster drivers to go by, but then speeds up so he can pass in front and then slow down again!
I have always attributed this to the fact that the driver doesn't have cruise and cannot keep his foot steady on the gas pedal.

 

[Norm Peterson]

So, yes, it was asinine to suggest that because one goes a constant speed on a highway, that one is better off driving a camry.

No argument there. Though I think the comparison was intended to be more about the absence of sportiness in the driving rather than about the car itself.

Norm I've had great respect for your experience but your opinions on cruise control are as myopic as they can get. It's as if you think people don't drive long distances on the highway. Just accept that not everyone thinks like you and therefore perhaps would enjoy a feature that makes long distance cruising on the highway less strenuous. I drove my car from VA to TX to run the Texas Mile. You can bet your ass I am a driver and enjoy getting the most out of my driving experience. But that was 26 hours of straight roads that I had to trudge though to get there.

From time to time I've driven significant distances on the highway myself, and it's never even occurred to me that whatever car I'm driving actually has CC. Understand that I'd been driving for well over 20 years before any of our cars even included it (CC with MT was a relatively late development, and by the time any of our cars did have CC the "not even thinking about it" mentality was pretty well solidified). I think I'll be driving about 500 miles out to Mid-Ohio for a track day with some folks from another forum, and if thoughts of CC cross my mind at all it'll be at least one time more than I expect.

Just the thought of 26 hours on CC makes me sleepy out of having even less to do or at least occasionally have to think about.

Welcome to America! Now get out there and do some serious driving long distance and you will be singing a new tune. I drive 1000 miles a week on average with some days equaling 400 miles plus working. Cruise is extremely important for safety and taking care of the monotony. I'm excited for the adaptive cruise and obstacle detection/ collision prevention.

I'm afraid that I see CC as contributing more to monotony - or distraction - rather than relieving any of it.

Don't get me started on technologies that will ultimately lead to people distancing themselves even further from what they're supposed to be doing and paying attention to.

I, for one, wish that more people would use their cruise control. I'm cruising down the freeway and a car ahead of me starts to slow down for no reason (no braking). If there are cars in the other lane I have to slow down. Finally I get room to pass him and as soon as I pass him...he speeds up and then switches to my lane. Then, he slows down again. And we start all over again. This type of driver just seems to be unable to allow faster drivers to go by, but then speeds up so he can pass in front and then slow down again!
I have always attributed this to the fact that the driver doesn't have cruise and cannot keep his foot steady on the gas pedal.

Neither adaptive CC nor the 'ACCEL' button on a standard CC is equipped to cope with this situation, where you might want to accelerate to move over a lane on shorter and more precise notice than CC can work with. You can see the situation develop, it cannot.

FWIW, I don't like it when I encounter drivers who speed up to get in front and then slow down any better than you do. But I usually blame it on the other driver not recognizing any need to demonstrate courtesy in return.


Norm

 

[RisingForce]

time out everyone!

I totally see Norm's point.

He never said Cruise Control is a useless feature. He never said Adaptive Cruise Control is a useless feature either.

I have Adaptive Cruise on my SHO and use it daily on my commute and LOVE it. But I opted OUT on ACC on my 2015 Mustang cause A) it is not gonna be my daily commuter and B) when I drive a Mustang its more than just getting from point A to point B. Its more than just setting my cruise and get on the freeway. Its the entire driving experience. Its the driving at different speeds at the country roads and enjoying the car itself. Its the speed up and down and feel that youre driving a MUSTANG.
Now surely I could do all of the stuff above with or without Cruise/ACC. You are not forced to use it. But in my case, knowing that MY Mustang will not be used fora daily commute, I chose not to put that option on it, because I dont plan on using my Mustang as a daily commute vehicle and more importantly, if I am driving my Mustang and there is a slow moving vehicle in front of me, I WILL PASS IT! :ford:

 

[Norm Peterson]

Thanks.

It's the "more people should use it" attitude - which specifically implies that I should use it as well - that sets me off.


Norm

 

[tsunami]

My brother lives near Key West and frequently drives up to Minnesota to visit. His job is to pick up rental vehicles and drive them to a new location, so he drives up to a thousand miles a week. He never uses cruise. The last time I drove down to Key West in my old car without CC, nearly non-stop, it took me 'forever' to get the cramps out of my right foot and leg.
I drove down and back this spring and used the CC nearly constantly. I could move my right leg around every few minutes to keep the circulation running. It was an enjoyable drive.
My new convertible is going to have adaptive cruise.

 

[RisingForce]

My brother lives near Key West and frequently drives up to Minnesota to visit. His job is to pick up rental vehicles and drive them to a new location, so he drives up to a thousand miles a week. He never uses cruise. The last time I drove down to Key West in my old car without CC, nearly non-stop, it took me 'forever' to get the cramps out of my right foot and leg.
I drove down and back this spring and used the CC nearly constantly. I could move my right leg around every few minutes to keep the circulation running. It was an enjoyable drive.
My new convertible is going to have adaptive cruise.

So you explained all the benefits of Cruise Control ( which comes standard on all Mustangs) and which I agree with you. Yet that has nothing to do with Adaptive Cruise :shrug::headbonk:

 

[tsunami]

The tone of this website...

So you explained all the benefits of Cruise Control ( which comes standard on all Mustangs) and which I agree with you. Yet that has nothing to do with Adaptive Cruise :shrug::headbonk:

Part of my comments was to see how commentors reply to others they don't agree with. This thread started out as questions about adaptive cruise control but quickly turned into replies about how 'wimpy' drivers are that use CC.
The majority of threads on this website quickly turn into snide comments about others.
I came here to find out as much I as could about the features of the new Mustang, but it is time consuming to work my way through the negative comments about other's choices.
I have deleted quite a few URLs because the comments always seemed to devolve into "Mine is Bigger than Yours!"

 

[Trackaholic]

Part of my comments was to see how commentors reply to others they don't agree with. This thread started out as questions about adaptive cruise control but quickly turned into replies about how 'wimpy' drivers are that use CC.
The majority of threads on this website quickly turn into snide comments about others.
I came here to find out as much I as could about the features of the new Mustang, but it is time consuming to work my way through the negative comments about other's choices.
I have deleted quite a few URLs because the comments always seemed to devolve into "Mine is Bigger than Yours!"

Aside from a few hot-button issues like cruise control and DRLs (still not sure why those topics are so controversial...oh, and don't even think of bringing up remote start) this site is actually far more polite and tolerant than most others I've seen. Heck, even including those highly volatile subjects the people here are quite polite in comparison to those posting on many other sites.

-T

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