i would think just the gearing alone would be enough to be able to tell as the a10 would go through many more gears. but if youre saying that one might not be able to tell the car youre driving is an auto or manual say vs the a6 . then this is very possible that an average person might not be able to tell especially when no lift shifting.
Up until i drove the A10, i would definitely agree with you, but the new auto is seriously good. It sucks saying it because i do love the manual, but with the new tech, i dont think you can beat the auto.
I've had 2 '85 Mustang's, one a new LX 5.0 Coupe and a GT. The T5's were garbage but you could row them fast as hell. The stick in my 2006 I could nail real fast as well. Is an auto faster shifting than a stick, meh, for too long Ford automatics were garbage so nobody who was serious bought one.
The major part being ignored isn't the difference between you and the A10's shifting. The difference is the A10 stays in the powerband through all of the gears while when you shift up a gear you drop significantly more RPM's, you'd lose because of this advantage, not shifting speed because I'm with you there.
You and Angry50 make valid points. To be a valid test for the point I was trying to make, it would have to be 6 sp vs. 6 spd. But the A10 is newer & better technology than the a6, so the only way to validate my point would be to have a fully instrumented (data ac) a10 & m6, and measure how many milliseconds between gearshifts. I guess you could also probably do it on a chassis dyno.
the auto is quicker,but the stick is alot more fun to drive.:ford:
I completely agree and truly wonder how many have actually spent a lot of seat time in a manual. I test drove the A10. It might be faster, but no way in hell is it a better driving experience than with a manual. Driving around in traffic it was constantly changing gears. I just don't get the end all be all you've just got to drive the A10. I guess I just like to have too much fun when I'm out tooling around. My wife even enjoyed driving the manual better. When we drove the auto, I believe her comment was, "You wouldn't actually get an automatic, would you?"
https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-gt3-models/911-gt3/featuresandspecs/
Porsche is ringing the register by adding a manual for those desiring the experience, but they are very clearly conflicted about it. They do not like having the Z06 at half the price powning these things on track. My German sux, but the impression I get from the forum is the Porsche desire to keep absolute performance at the pinnacle in the Porsche Theokratie. The marketing and sales victory over engineering in bringing back the manual option on the 911 GT3 RS is a very sore issue.
Fords stock price hasn't moved because they aren't very smart....not building enough high profit raptors to satisfy demand ..dumb....not making enough high profit 350's dumb.. killing the ranger...dumb.... only offering a transmission in their highest performance vehicle that does NOTHING but slow the car down, extremely dumb! other options that may slow a car down offer comfort or safety a manual slows you down and you get nothing but worse gas mileage...I know people may "enjoy" it... but why on earth would you slow your cars down for?
