2022 Mach 1 Alignment Issues

[MartinMJM]

When in for regular service, my local performance speed shop set up my 2022 Mach 1 (base model) front camber to -1.7 degrees. I indicated that I do not track the vehicle.

The Supplemental Manual specifies -1.03 degrees for street alignment, information which I provided to the mechanic. When questioned, he indicated that -1.7 degrees was the best that he could attain without modifying the front suspension (cutting metal, etc.). See attached page from the Owner's Manual.

-1.7 degrees is more than the manual recommends for even track alignment (-1.5 degrees). Also, will this result in more tire wear ?

FOLLOW UP COMMENTS:

So, I finally got the vehicle back from Ford Service (after 3 days, the alignment machine went down and needed service, ironic).

The Ford Service Manager agreed that the alignment could not be set to the specs shown in the Supplemental Owner's Manual without removing the struts and cutting the metal in the mounts. I told him not to do this. So, I have to live with the front camber being set to -1.7 degrees (and not the specified -1.03 degrees).

He could not explain why this was the case other than saying that sometimes the manufacturer changes the specs without notice or without changing the manual.

This seems wrong. I am not satisfied with this conclusion. How do I escalate this issue with Ford? I really want to get to the bottom of this problem. I also want to see if anyone else has encountered this issue. It can't be just me...?

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[JetGray_Mach1]

I would take it to a different Ford dealer. I would demand brand new parts in a new vehicle that's unacceptable.

 

[Traffic22]

Yeah, that doesn’t sound right. Not sure if it’s apples to apples, but my local performance shop had 0 issues setting track alignment specs in my 2022 HP M1……

The only “tricky” part was getting the set screws out of the front so the alignment could be set.

Is it possible they failed to remove the set screws?

 

[luc]

When in for regular service, my local performance speed shop set up my 2022 Mach 1 (base model) front camber to -1.7 degrees. I indicated that I do not track the vehicle.

The Supplemental Manual specifies -1.03 degrees for street alignment, information which I provided to the mechanic. When questioned, he indicated that -1.7 degrees was the best that he could attain without modifying the front suspension (cutting metal, etc.). See attached page from the Owner's Manual.

-1.7 degrees is more than the manual recommends for even track alignment (-1.5 degrees). Also, will this result in more tire wear ?

FOLLOW UP COMMENTS:

So, I finally got the vehicle back from Ford Service (after 3 days, the alignment machine went down and needed service, ironic).

The Ford Service Manager agreed that the alignment could not be set to the specs shown in the Supplemental Owner's Manual without removing the struts and cutting the metal in the mounts. I told him not to do this. So, I have to live with the front camber being set to -1.7 degrees (and not the specified -1.03 degrees).

He could not explain why this was the case other than saying that sometimes the manufacturer changes the specs without notice or without changing the manual.

This seems wrong. I am not satisfied with this conclusion. How do I escalate this issue with Ford? I really want to get to the bottom of this problem. I also want to see if anyone else has encountered this issue. It can't be just me...?

Something don’t make sense. I don’t think that the base m1 come with camber plates, therefore no way to adjust it ????
Someone correct me if I’m wrong regarding the plates

 

[murick]

This seems wrong. I am not satisfied with this conclusion. How do I escalate this issue with Ford? I really want to get to the bottom of this problem. I also want to see if anyone else has encountered this issue. It can't be just me...?

I have basic "Euro" Mach 1 and was incidentally on three(!) alignment checks in the past 4 months.

First shop found camber on my front right wheel a tad out of spec (-1.80° vs -1.78°), while the left front wheel was -1.58°.
The second shop found everything in norm and perfectly aligned (and just measured both wheel at -1°33' and -1°35' (note the different notation, using degrees and minutes!) which would be -1.55° and -1.58° and finally the third shop found the values for camber for the front left and right wheels -1°45' and -1°32' (which would be -1.75° and -1.53° - similar to the first one just the values on wheels swapped ).

The three shops also managed to use different templates for that (first one used 2021 Mustang with PP and Track Package, the second one used 2015 GT, and the last one 2022 Mach 1 - they did not find 2021 Mach 1 .

So after that, I would not be worried about not being in spec according to the user manual. It seems that according to the latest template for 2022 Mach 1 the acceptable values for the front wheel camber are from -0°28' to -1°58' (which would be -0.47° and -1.97°).
Plus, every measurement seems to bring far more bigger variation than what is the actual deviation.

 

[murick]

Something don’t make sense. I don’t think that the base m1 come with camber plates, therefore no way to adjust it ????
Someone correct me if I’m wrong regarding the plates

You are right (as per my quest described earlier), camber is not adjustable on base Mach 1. The only way to change it is either get the camber plates (which is possible), or get the whole wheel assembly replaced (if it was damaged), which means the wheel hub and the suspension. This is what they told me in the first shop.

 

[cerbomark]

I had similar issues and this is what dealer said is correct . I never got any clear answers and even questioned why the print says Mach 1 w/HP which I am not. they said they just put the vin into the machine and this is what comes up??? I actually forgot about it and the car is driving fine so far, only 5K miles so I don t know about tire wear yet but don t see anything.

 

[cerbomark]

I was also told if the front toe is near 0 I won t have any inner tire wear. they state it is not the camber but the toe that causes the wear. I don t know??

 

[murick]

I had similar issues and this is what dealer said is correct . I never got any clear answers and even questioned why the print says Mach 1 w/HP which I am not.

At least you have an HP alignment . I would not be worried about it. It should not impact your commuting and if you eventually get on the track, you will be ready!

 

[cerbomark]

At least you have an HP alignment . I would not be worried about it. It should not impact your commuting and if you eventually get on the track, you will be ready!

Yea but I get the Op s concern because they can t explain anything. I mean an Hp vs non HP, the wheel offset and sizes alone should require diffenrt alignment settings, No?
I m finding information shortage in my experience with Ford in general.

 

[luc]

I was also told if the front toe is near 0 I won t have any inner tire wear. they state it is not the camber but the toe that causes the wear. I don t know??

Correct

 

[murick]

Yea but I get the Op s concern because they can t explain anything. I mean an Hp vs non HP, the wheel offset and sizes alone should require diffenrt alignment settings, No?
I m finding information shortage in my experience with Ford in general.

If you look at the page from the manual posted by OP, which defines Street and Track setting for regular Mach 1 - what the hell did Ford even mean by that when there is no way to adjust camber on the base Mach 1 anyway?
The camber we got (non-HP Mach 1s) is basically defined by how the parts fit together at the assembly line.
Luckily, my alignment basically follows the spec, apart from the front camber where I am at "Track" settings. But as I wrote, this I would find rather insignificant considering the circumstances and current state of affair.

 

[JOKER M1]

As others have mentioned Base M1 camber is not adjustable (other than slop/clearance adjustment in all the fasteners)

Assuming you are the original owner and no damage done to the car it’s possible something is out of wack

I have an HP with factory camber plates. Prior to removing the factory set screws my camber was 1.1 & 1.4, after removing the set screws and struts pulled full outboard the camber was 1.1 & 1.3 In my opinion your base non adjustable camber should be closer to my numbers which is more in line with what’s called for

 

[IPOGT]

It’s assuming you add the optional camber plates reference setting I presume.

 

[Charlemagne]

If you look at the page from the manual posted by OP, which defines Street and Track setting for regular Mach 1 - what the hell did Ford even mean by that when there is no way to adjust camber on the base Mach 1 anyway?

Exactly, they wouldn't specify -1.03° for street and -1.5° for track if camber couldn't be adjusted on non-HP Mach 1.

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