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You may have problems with too big tyre diameter difference between those two setups (+4.9% between 315/30 R19 and 255/40 R19). Same issue as for people with normal wheels who'd want the wider wheels. But if you'll pick slightly different tyre like 275/35 R19 then the diameter difference is only +0.8% which is fine, and Michelin has this size in PS4s. Similarly 255/35 R19 (-0.8%) is better for front than 255/40 R19 (+3.1%) and again available in PS4s.

Maybe the dealer can code different tyre too if you'd want original sizes, but since in USA you can freely choose the size it's not an issue (unlike here where we have only original 255/40 and 275/40 R19 sizes allowed).
I had an opportunity to grab a set of the 255/35 R19 and 275/40 R19 for a very good price but I may just wait and replace the cup 2's with the PS4s once the wear out.
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If you have HP rims, which are 10.5" (front) and 11" (rear) wide, fitting 255 mm wide tyre might be tricky as it will be narrower than the rim.
 

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I had an opportunity to grab a set of the 255/35 R19 and 275/40 R19 for a very good price but I may just wait and replace the cup 2's with the PS4s once the wear out.
255/35-19 isn't big enough in terms of load capacity at any given inflation pressure. If I were you, I'd pass that opportunity up.


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I would only use them for daily driver/winter and no tracking.
They're still 4 Load Index number too small, which would certainly apply in any street duty. At your door-sticker recommended inflation pressures, they'd actually be several psi underinflated. And your TPMS would never know this.

Never mind the increased likelihood of pinch flats and wheel damage.


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They're still 4 Load Index number too small, which would certainly apply in any street duty. At your door-sticker recommended inflation pressures, they'd actually be several psi underinflated. And your TPMS would never know this.

Never mind the increased likelihood of pinch flats and wheel damage.


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Okay but why are they offered on the base Mach1's non-HP? Is there something I am missing?
 

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Okay but why are they offered on the base Mach1's non-HP? Is there something I am missing?
I for one am unclear which tire you picked up in those sizes PS4, PS2, something else?
Did you compare the diameter of the 315/30x19 with the new size and does it vary more than 3%?
 

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I for one am unclear which tire you picked up in those sizes PS4, PS2, something else?
Did you compare the diameter of the 315/30x19 with the new size and does it vary more than 3%?
My bad the sizes are 255/40 R19 not 255/35 R19 (for the 19 Bullitt) and 275/40 R19.
These were take offs from a base Mach1 which are the same as the mustang gt PP.
 

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My bad the sizes are 255/40 R19 not 255/35 R19 (for the 19 Bullitt) and 275/40 R19.
These were take offs from a base Mach1 which are the same as the mustang gt PP.
A 275/40x19 is 4.9% larger in diameter than a 315/30x19 which exceeds the maximum variation of 3%.
 

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Okay but why are they offered on the base Mach1's non-HP? Is there something I am missing?
I don't think 255/35 in 19" is offered on any Mach 1 trim. It'd be wide enough, but it's not tall enough (think sidewall height) to contain sufficient air volume, which is primarily responsible for determining load @ psi ratings.


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I don't think 255/35 in 19" is offered on any Mach 1 trim. It'd be wide enough, but it's not tall enough (think sidewall height) to contain sufficient air volume, which is primarily responsible for determining load @ psi ratings.


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You are correct and that is why I pointed out my mistake that it was actually the 255/40 R19 and not the 255/35 R19's.
 

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It'd be wide enough, but it's not tall enough (think sidewall height) to contain sufficient air volume, which is primarily responsible for determining load @ psi ratings.
The sidewall height is only 2 mm different between 255/35 and 305/30, do you think it's enough to matter? The load index is 96Y for 255/35 while 255/40 has 100Y, but load index 96 means maximum load 730 kg per tyre, while 100 is 800 kg. It doesn't seem to me like a big difference for any scenario (well, jumping with the car aside)?

If it was a problem, how else would this be solvable when 255/40 has 4.9% diameter difference and could cause problems with DSC, ABS, differential or other systems? This is mainly concerning winter tyres on second wheel set as I doubt any winter tyres in 305/315 width exist.
 

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The sidewall height is only 2 mm different between 255/35 and 305/30, do you think it's enough to matter? The load index is 96Y for 255/35 while 255/40 has 100Y, but load index 96 means maximum load 730 kg per tyre, while 100 is 800 kg. It doesn't seem to me like a big difference for any scenario (well, jumping with the car aside)?
It's not about maximum load capacity once we're dealing with a specific car. Max load capacity is a tire design criterion, not a vehicle need or requirement.

For vehicles, it's only about rated load at every given inflation pressure. Let me see if I can paste a couple of snippets from the Tire & Rim Association tables for 96 and 100 Load Index tires . . .

First, SL tires:
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Now, XL tires in the same Load Index range:
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Note that the SL and XL tables do not line up as far as rated load for the same Load Index and inflation pressure. Note also that XL tires are actually smaller than SL tires of the same nominal size - they only gain extra load rating through being able to withstand higher inflation pressures.

Example, a 96 SL tire is good for 1411 lbs rated load at 32 psi inflation. A 96 XL tire is only good for 1257 lbs rated load at that inflation pressure. A 150 lb loss of rated load would correspond to roughly 4 psi underinflation.


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My whole point is Ford spec'd the size for track and daily driving. See below.

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