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They probably did. They also spec what they want the supplier to make. I’ve worked for a couple of automotive suppliers I can tell you that some engineers have no clue how components are actually made. They sometimes put stupid tight tolerances where they don’t need them, and then leave out dimensions that are actually more important. Those guys need to push their chair back and go out on a manufacturing floor once in a while and visit some suppliers to learn how things are made.

Chances are this is a manufacturing issue with a specific "lot" of parts. A lot is a manufacturing run produced at a specific point in time. Lots are a manufacturing control method of mitigating issues such as these. Instead of recalling ALL these parts, a subset produced can be recalled.

Keep in mind this is the exact same part design used for the previous 2 years...and no recalls on this part up until now. Unless there was a re-design on this part for 2020 (not likely if it worked before because any re-design effort costs $$$$$$), then the scenario above is more likely.

I'd suspect this defect was uncovered during reliability testing done at Ford (or even the supplier) and the automotive maker leaning forward with a recall before an actual failure occurs on the street.
 

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Couldn't you just add a manual brake pedal assembly?
 

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" Ford changed the brake pedal bracket material from nylon to polypropylene "

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Then accounting calls and says they can save 6 cents per unit...
Actually, it has two. One is under the gift shop. The second is underneath Alamo Hall. The latter being used as a reception venue.
Better tell Peewee, his bike WAS at the Alamo :crackup:. I really liked San Antonio, but I haven't been in years.
 

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I've heard that dealerships won't even be getting replacement parts until Nov. Any validity to this from insiders?

Edit: I read the nhtsa recall link in the OP. They aren't even sending iut notices to owners until Nov 16 so seems to be the case.
 
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As a vet myself you trying to quote some jargon BS to beat your chest is embarrassing. I called you a Boomer because you're trying to act like your human body shifts faster than the 10R80. "Training wheels." That in and of itself is hilarious. Secondly, you came onto a thread where we're discussing the bummers and implications of a recall on a brake peddle assembly with a chip on your shoulder thinking you were funny.

Since this entire thread is now veering into "against the board rules" territory i'll steer it back into the right lane by saying that with only two incidents state side the likelihood of you being affected in the real world is very minimal. That's less than 1%. Just get it swapped when you can, and don't donkey kick your brakes.
I don't like identity politics. Guessing there are some here that are unable to take the normal banter that goes on . With car guys, as a vet so you say. I'd think you might recognize, that difference. It's the same shit that goes on, on every military base.

Might consider ones own BS, I still say a car with auto trans, reminds me of a bike with training wheels.

And yes that is hilarious as it was intended. Hurt your feelings did I, here is a dime go call the Chaplin .

Toughen up that vet skin you say your walking around in.
 

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I don't like identity politics. Guessing there are some here that are unable to take the normal banter that goes on . With car guys, as a vet so you say. I'd think you might recognize, that difference. It's the same shit that goes on, on every military base.

Might consider ones own BS, I still say a car with auto trans, reminds me of a bike with training wheels.

And yes that is hilarious as it was intended. Hurt your feelings did I, here is a dime go call the Chaplin .

Toughen up that vet skin you say your walking around in.
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I've heard that dealerships won't even be getting replacement parts until Nov. Any validity to this from insiders?

Edit: I read the nhtsa recall link in the OP. They aren't even sending iut notices to owners until Nov 16 so seems to be the case.
On thursday I called Ford's customer relations for another issue I'm having and after they rep was able to get me the answer I wanted she informed me that there's a recall on my car, and that at this time the letters havent been sent out but that the dealer should be able to get the part if they request it. So maybe the full recall wont be active until these letters are sent out but doesnt mean the dealer cant get the part if they request it.
 

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Simple solution ................... Drag your feet on the pavement to slow down .............. :cwl: :rockon:
 

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Chances are this is a manufacturing issue with a specific "lot" of parts. A lot is a manufacturing run produced at a specific point in time. Lots are a manufacturing control method of mitigating issues such as these. Instead of recalling ALL these parts, a subset produced can be recalled.

Keep in mind this is the exact same part design used for the previous 2 years...and no recalls on this part up until now. Unless there was a re-design on this part for 2020 (not likely if it worked before because any re-design effort costs $$$$$$), then the scenario above is more likely.

I'd suspect this defect was uncovered during reliability testing done at Ford (or even the supplier) and the automotive maker leaning forward with a recall before an actual failure occurs on the street.
If you read carefully, you will note that there was a material change from nylon to another type of plastic. I doubt that it was only one lot involved, unless they make 40,000 of them at a time.
 
 
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