2018+ GT350

[Kpod]

I agree. I'll be very displeased if they continue it beyond 2017. I may even sell mine if that is the case.

How much do you want for it???

I think if you state as a fact that it will not happen 3 more times, it will be so.

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[J_Maher_AMG]

LOL

Yeah, the S550 is ancient. I am eyerolling so hard right now, I swear.

The S197 ran from 2005 - 2014. The GT500 ran from 2007 - 2014 because it kept selling. There were periodic improvements in that time (2010 engine improvements and new body, 2011 new engine, 2013 new engine and new body styling), but production was uninterrupted.

I can't find anywhere where Ford has stated that GT350 production is limited to 2 years. Ford put a lot of money, time and effort into the GT350 and I don't see them ending production after 2 years. I hope they keep making them and keep improving them.

If the S650 is going to debut in 5 years I don't see a new halo Mustang until then. I do think/hope we'll see a special variant like a Mach1 before then though.

I don't know any more than anyone else here, so I certainly can be wrong. We'll see. :cheers:

The GT500 only came out then because the market demanded it and Ford had no high powered sports car at all. Jim Owens is on video stating the GT350 would follow the Boss 302's two year run.

Yes Ford did spend a lot of money on the GT350, which is why Jamal Hameedi hinted that the "GT350 has good bones, so.." when he was interviewed about a potential upcoming GT500. Ford could stop producing the 350 right now and wouldn't lose a dime, because the suspension tech, brakes, wheels, etc., all the research and development they gained there will be use in the next GT500 and most likely the next Mach 1 or whatever other special edition. Most likely the S650 will probably debut with the magnetic suspension as standard, as we all know the base models of each generation typically up performance fairly significantly.

And it makes no sense to not bring out a GT500 until the S650. Why wait 6 years from the first Hellcat to bring out a Hellcat Killer?? Pointless by that time really, in my mind. They've already said they won't produce two Shelbys at once, they said the 350 would mirror the Boss 302 run, we know the 5.2CPC motor can be very potent and certainly could make its own case as a racing motor, so I am hoping they kill the 350, preserve its legacy, and come out with a new special edition. I don't care if the next one is faster or better or has more cool features, the history/exclusivity is more important for them to retain for the 350 IMO.

 

[Voodooo]

How much do you want for it???

I think if you state as a fact that it will not happen 3 more times, it will be so.

Just so we're clear, mine is a 2016 track pack #413 magnetic with black ott stripes. 217 miles on the odometer.
I have done all the mods listed in my signature below. I'll never get what I have in it and I'm fine with that. Last time I dynoed it I pulled 531 rwhp with Lund tune and ARH long tubes and stock mufflers.

 

[Colleton]

Jim Owens is on video stating the GT350 would follow the Boss 302's two year run.

Do you have a link? I sure haven't seen it.

...which is why Jamal Hameedi hinted that the "GT350 has good bones, so.." when he was interviewed about a potential upcoming GT500.

That's a decent point, I do remember that quote. Still, it's just an off the cuff remark and nothing official. I think you're reading what you want to see into it.

...so I am hoping they kill the 350, preserve its legacy, and come out with a new special edition. I don't care if the next one is faster or better or has more cool features, the history/exclusivity is more important for them to retain for the 350 IMO.

IMO, your desire is for exclusivity on your own part, not the "legacy" of the GT350.

 

[Kpod]

The GT500 only came out then because the market demanded it and Ford had no high powered sports car at all. Jim Owens is on video stating the GT350 would follow the Boss 302's two year run.

The thing I don't get is that it keeps getting mentioned that "the GT350 will follow the Boss 302's two year run." Yet we have a 2015, 2016, and 2017 shelby gt350. Maybe I need to go back and watch the count on sesame street but 2015 + 2016 + 2017 = 3 year run... so far. Maybe he meant that the gt350 would follow the boss 302's 2 year run meaning that the gt350 would be the next special car, following the 2 years of the boss 302.

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

Do you have a link? I sure haven't seen it.

That's a decent point, I do remember that quote. Still, it's just an off the cuff remark and nothing official. I think you're reading what you want to see into it.

IMO, your desire is for exclusivity on your own part, not the "legacy" of the GT350.

I definitely agree its nothing official, but thinking that the R&D for the GT350 is not going to be seen in future Mustangs would just be foolish! I don't think I'm reading into it what I want, as its always the case that new tech on higher model cars trickles down to lower models in future revisions. Magnetic suspension setups are the way of the future in terms of performance cars! Same as the carbon fibre wheels, we'll eventually see them on almost everything most likely as the technology becomes more affordable.

Not at all, even if I did not own my R, I would like to see the run end after 2 years. I am very big on not diluting or spoiling a good thing; I despised when AMG decided to make the decision to come out with the "C450 AMG Sport" line as it was certainly a dilution of the brand. Then they released the "43 AMG" line, which was a bit of a slap in the face for the true AMG owners. Those 43 designated cars did not have a "one man one engine" philosophy that the brand had embraced for 40 years, did not have an AMG specific transmission, etc. Yet they did it to capture more sales. I never believe that sales should dictate the planning with specialty vehicles. They are the cars the company can be proud of and make a statement with, they are NOT whatsoever the vehicles that make or break the financial books.

I'll have to look for the video later when I have access to youtube man, I'll post if I can find it.

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

The thing I don't get is that it keeps getting mentioned that "the GT350 will follow the Boss 302's two year run." Yet we have a 2015, 2016, and 2017 shelby gt350. Maybe I need to go back and watch the count on sesame street but 2015 + 2016 + 2017 = 3 year run... so far. Maybe he meant that the gt350 would follow the boss 302's 2 year run meaning that the gt350 would be the next special car, following the 2 years of the boss 302.

They do have 3 model years technically, but there were only 137 2015's built, so it doesn't really qualify for a full model year run per se. They were built just weeks/a month before the 2016's were built and shipped, so really they were just 2016's with different numbers to make them a little more special/rare than the rest that followed.

 

[Colleton]

I think we'll find out sometime this winter, either way.

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

I think we'll find out sometime this winter, either way.

Agreed, my fingers are crossed that we see a new GT500 unveiled along with a Mach 1 edition upgrade for the GT

 

[thePill]

From the Mustang fan point of view, it was the best decision. The decision to stay with the GT350 was for Mustang heritage and to continue the GT350's legacy. Ford has a huge advantage going into GT4 regulation and Motorsport seems to be the main focus.

 

[Grimace427]

Not at all, even if I did not own my R, I would like to see the run end after 2 years. I am very big on not diluting or spoiling a good thing; I despised when AMG decided to make the decision to come out with the "C450 AMG Sport" line as it was certainly a dilution of the brand. Then they released the "43 AMG" line, which was a bit of a slap in the face for the true AMG owners. Those 43 designated cars did not have a "one man one engine" philosophy that the brand had embraced for 40 years, did not have an AMG specific transmission, etc. Yet they did it to capture more sales.

Sorry for a little off-topic:

In AMG's defense they are now producing complete cars which is not in their history...the SLS and GT-S. A little give and a little take.

 

[MCarsFan]

I am so glad I didnt pay ADM.

I will be sad if Ford follows Porsche and BMW's footsteps and delude their brand. Unfortunately every car manufacturer follows the same path mainly driven by marketing division and executives.

 

[ThreeFiveO]

Not to turn this into an AMG forum but they wandered off the reservation along time ago.
I bought a new E55 in 2001 when owning an AMG car was something special. It was quite a sleeper for it's time.
Can't blame Benz though. Who knew people would be buying 500hp SUVs and station wagons?
If Benz had a voodoo I could see an AMG Sprinter on the horizon.
Lets hope Ford doesn't make the 350 a six year run.

 

[thePill]

Still waiting for anything regarding the info wave last week. At least we have significantly more information about a 2018+ GT350 than when we did when the thread opened. Sometimes, all you need to do is start asking questions and the levy breaks with details.

I typically have a thread or topic up 30 to 45 days out before info starts going public. However, I guess there are a million things that can STILL change within the last 30 days before production as we seen with the ATS-V and 1LE. Not many can even see those last minute changes unless we bring them up first... at the risk of sounding strange. This time though, thePill didn't have much time. I got the info between 26 and 29 September with trickle in from there on out.

Everyone needs to understand one thing though. All this GT350 talk is specifically designed to keep your eyes off the GT500. Ford will readily confirm a continuation of the GT350 before getting to the GT500 topic. The reason the engine builders post was removed was due to the "Watch out Hellcat" comment more than the GT350. As we begin to see very special mules running around with serious equipment, Ford will let people assume it is a continuation of the GT350. Because many wholeheartedly believed Ford when they said the GT350 was a 3 year deal.

Honestly, the GT350 was always planned for 2015-2020... the Info Wave that thePill just supplied commentary for is, was and will be a diversion for the GT500.


Just be vigilant...

 

[ARS1]

I'd like to see them end it in '17 as well because I will have a '17 but honestly they will be the same as the Raptor if they do. The Raptor had an awesome resale after the kill in '14 but recently they've plunged because the next best thing is on the horizon. When the GT500 starts shipping GT350 prices will dive and wont return for quite some time as people are going to want the next best thing not an "old" model... I got over MSRP on trade for both Raptors I traded in Feb of '16. One of which was in MINT condition '14 extremely low mile female driven. That truck sat on the lot, went to auction, picked up and shipped south and to this day is STILL FOR SALE!!! Since the new one is coming nobody's buying the old version for now... There's also 6 for sale local that I know of that have also been sitting. The GT350 trades on GT500's I don't see being any different unless it's somehow a "special" car for whatever reason. Luckily I am buying mine cash and to keep... No interest in trading it only getting it some friends in the future

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