2018+ GT350

[nastang87xx]

Well if the Mustang GT has too many queues from the 350, including a significant HP bump - be prepared for high depreciation, IMO. I hope they don't include too much into the GT, making the 350 less "special". Some people will argue that it's still special, and it is - but...if they offered a GT with mag suspension and the revised spindles/track of the 350, I'd be all over it for a weekend track car at 60% the price of a 350.

Ford has been kinda dropping that hint that they're pulling a Porsche 911 with the GT350's engine. That's why the new Aluminator is CPC but also to keep cost down.

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[Superdog]

This sounds like an awesome thing, but Ford is a manufacturer and they are in this to build cars and make money. The past tells us they re-use and recycle things to maximize profit by pulling things from the cobra line (or whatever) and putting it elsewhere to maximize profit. I don't think we are at the end of the FPC by any stretch.

But I hope you're right and they do end it and create exclusivity!! :cheers:

Yeah man. Likely just wishful thing on my part.

 

[Superdog]

My 2015 mustang went down about 30% after one year. That's with only 10K miles on it after 1 year.

Yeah, mine lost about 25% after about a year with less than 3k miles.

 

[PP0001]

Completely irrelevant. The GT350 is much more special than the GT500 simply because it only came back for a 50year anniversary. In contrast, the 500 came out 10 years ago, went away for a few, came back out, etc.

Don't believe that the GT350 will extend beyond the 17' model year, as it was only made during 1965-1967. I believe it will mirror the same 3 year production run from 2015-2017 for historical value.

The GT500 and potentially a Mach1 will fill in the gap for the GT350 when it's gone.

Actually the original GT350's were produced for 6 years (1965 to 1970) with the original GT500's being produced 4 years (1967 to 1970).

The first 3 MY's were produced by Carroll Shelby and his team in LA and with Ford taking control for the last 3 MY's from '68 to '70 in Michigan.

Having said that I still suggest that the 2017MY will be the last year for the new generation GT350.

 

[68fbjjz109]

From talking to some powertrain guys at the track, they where vague. However they said a GT350 successor is in the works.

 

[jonesd]

That is not what someone on another forum with pretty intimate knowledge of the program said. Yes equal length headers were tested, but they said they were a packaging nightmare. They also these equal length shorties result in a more traditional FPC sound

Not to mention, the headers kept cracking during testing

 

[nastang87xx]

^ Yes all those.... Stateside we also have that.

The 3/36 bumper-to-bumper and 5/60 powertrain as standard items isn't bad... could be better but we'd have to pay extra for that.

You won't get 5/60 standard on any other exotic engine, that's for sure.

 

[Epiphany]

This jives with what I thought I had read when the 5.0L was developed and profiled in an article a few years back, even though they protected the engine design for a DI configuration. Adam was also interviewed for that article too.

I assume you are referring to this article.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/parts/m5lp-1003-2011-ford-mustang-gt-50-coyote-engine/


Interesting tidbit. There was a blurb in one of the magazine writeups when the Coyote motor was introduced, along with a photo, that depicted a bump in the combustion chamber as being there as a boss for a future direct injector. Almost everyone remembers that one. I brought it up with Adam at the reveal. He laughed. He told me that the magazine was in error and that the bump was there for casting purposes and that it was designed to be left there. I asked why there was no correction in a follow up and he chuckled and said that it was one of those things we decided to just leave alone.

I've gotten to know Steve Turner a bit and have spent some time with him at a few events. Great guy that continues to contribute quite a bit to the community. I told him about my conversation with Adam and what he said about the DI bump....he mentioned that it may have been the implication at the time but to be fair it was Wilson's article (and I wish Tom was around as he has done a great job as well).

 

[thePill]

Ford accepted the manufacturers title today for the doninance the GT350 brought to the GS Class.

Ford, Porsche and BMW are headed to GT4 next season. Homologation needs completed before Janruary 1st.



The GT350 will continue as a 2018 model in IMSA GT4.


It is in stone...

 

[thePill]

It would be problematic (and historically inconsistent) for Ford business to continue the 350 when a refresh is coming. It would be a different 350 than the one now. When has Ford carried over specialty mustangs the very next year of a refresh. A refresh and a new GT500. Lots on a plate.

Using the scientific method and Occam's Razor (fewest assumptions) weighs heavy against your prediction.

Stay thirsty my friend!
:cheers:

Oh yeah?

2012 Boss 302 to 2013 Boss 302
2007-'09 GT500 to 2010-'12 GT500 to 2014-'15 GT500.
98 Cobra to 99 Cobra
93 Cobra to 94 Cobra?



Remember, the 2007 GT500 was suppose to be a 2-3 year run as well. It was 8 years before it took a break.


So... yes they have and yes they will continue.





Bottom line, Ford needs a Mustang to compete in IMSA's new GT4 Class. Ford has already thrown their hat into the mix and will migrate over from GS this year. It makes sense because Ford needs to homologate before 1 Jan 2017 or the entire season is forfeit to development.




BOOM!!!!


Multimatic annihilated GS and every car that has ever been approve to race. Both the GT350 and GT4 were developed on track, during the season. So the development cost and procedures are more profitable. No z28 is gonna save the Camaro now

 

[Darkane]

It was very clearly stated that the Ford GT was a two year program. Then something changed. Winning LeMans? Success in IMSA WTC GTLM? A new Ford Performance department under Dave Pericak? And now we have at least a four year racing and production program for the FGT.

We also now have a Fusion Sport and a Focus RS AWD, 12 High Performance vehicles promised by the end of the decade, and a new GT4 class in IMSA with leadership from Ford and Porsche along with a class winning performance by the GT350 in GS.

Despite what may have been said earlier, it makes no sense whatsoever that the GT350R with 500+ NA HP will disappear any time soon. A name change to 'Mustang GT4' may be appropriate though with a new level of exclusivity and an even bigger ADM.

Correct.

Mustang GT4 or Mustang GT-R.

One of those I strongly feel will show up.

 

[Bomiz]

is it worth waiting for MY18 then? I'm thinking about picking one up but i could care less about a power increase. It is going to be my DD

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

Ford accepted the manufacturers title today for the doninance the GT350 brought to the GS Class.

Ford, Porsche and BMW are headed to GT4 next season. Homologation needs completed before Janruary 1st.



The GT350 will continue as a 2018 model in IMSA GT4.


It is in stone...

Yes because they couldn't possibly have used the GT350's success to develop a Mach 1 or any other special edition Mustang to continue on with the varying racing series....

Nothing is set in stone; if anything there is more reason to believe it will not continue rather than continue on. They can easily replace the GT350 with another Mustang under another name and be just as successful in racing applications.

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

is it worth waiting for MY18 then? I'm thinking about picking one up but i could care less about a power increase. It is going to be my DD

IF it does continue, there will be no power bump. If anything, Ford may release a TracKey that could possibly increase power. I would strongly suggest if you are interested in buying one, that you look for your preferred color/options and work out a deal ASAP. Do not believe anything thePill says, he acts as if he has some inside knowledge when he doesn't. Anything he says is pure speculation, but he states his opinions as if they are gospel truth, so many users here may be mislead by his "factual" nonsense. If he were to imply what he was saying was an opinion, it wouldn't be half as a bad, but the fact everything he says is a statement as if he everything he says is right is quite annoying lol

 

[thePill]

Yes because they couldn't possibly have used the GT350's success to develop a Mach 1 or any other special edition Mustang to continue on with the varying racing series....

Nothing is set in stone; if anything there is more reason to believe it will not continue rather than continue on. They can easily replace the GT350 with another Mustang under another name and be just as successful in racing applications.

It's not tha simple and, to tell you the truth, Ford doesn't have time to test a replacement. Ford shadowed GS in 2014-2015 for maybe 2 or 3 races until they had to go public to finish testing. Ford hasn't tested anything except the GT350 and FIA's GT4 class will allow the GT350 to go almost unrestricted.

Ford has a Championship nameplate fresh off a 6 outta 10 annihilation so marketability is high. It's why they race... Ford fought endlessly for the rights to use GT350 on a Mustang again and it's here to stay.


As long as the Mustang remains in Pro Motorsport, the GT350 will remain as a Mustang.

If sales get low, the possibility of Ford releasing a Mach 1 for 2019 is fairly high for a 55th Anniversary. If that happens, I truly think Ford will offer the Mach 1 as the last supercharged V8 that's ever in a Mustang.

The Bullett could be a GT package but nothing crazy. The GT350 has replaced the Boss so the "350" could trickle down to the "GT". Fords Motorsport Program is elite and they won't end the GT350's hype here. People are still paying mark up man

In fact, Ford has become so "One Ford" that the Drag Racing Cobra Jet program could be replaced by a Ford Performance/Ford Racing GT500 Program. They will cross market Ecoboost, GT500 and the Drag Racing program all in one. Ford cannot market a Cobra Jet and the Retro Era is finally over.

The Mustang has adopted a streamlined nameplate buffet. Like the M's, and the AMG's, or the Z's or V's. It visually scales telling a new customer the pecking order and the 350 and 500 have massive reputations.

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