2017 vs 2018

[dn1984]

if you look for PP2 dynos, you will see that the number I quoted are real
That say, I’m a road racer, not at drag racer so I couldn’t care less about a couple mph or 1/10 in the 1/4

faster is faster. it's not like the 2017 has a different chassis or suspension setup

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[Balr14]

I don't see what the discussion is about. Every auto maker makes a variety of improvements when they do a model upgrade. If they didn't there wouldn't be much point to doing an upgrade. In another year or two, 2018 - 2020 models won't be as good as the newer model. I can accept that. Life goes on!

 

[luc]

I don't see what the discussion is about. Every auto maker makes a variety of improvements when they do a model upgrade. If they didn't there wouldn't be much point to doing an upgrade. In another year or two, 2018 - 2020 models won't be as good as the newer model. I can accept that. Life goes on!

You missed the point
Some upgrades are quantifiable upgrades such are more powerful engines, better suspension, better tranny, etc
Some other “upgrades “, mostly of the design types, are some times not upgrades at all, On the contrary
Would you prefer a 1974 Mustang over a 1965?
Or a 1972 corvette over a 69?
Or a 2003 Viper over a Gen2 GTS ??
Or a 2018 Mustang over a 2017???? Lol

 

[GreenS550]

The 18+ is not a little faster. It is a LOT faster. The entire engine is different: Heads, induction, etc. The transmission is significantly different. The guages, etc.
2-3K isn't enough. I've owned both and even though the '15 auto I had was good, the '18 auto is a good second faster. More refined in many ways including ride quality, etc.

 

[Balr14]

You missed the point
Some upgrades are quantifiable upgrades such are more powerful engines, better suspension, better tranny, etc
Some other “upgrades “, mostly of the design types, are some times not upgrades at all, On the contrary
Would you prefer a 1974 Mustang over a 1965?
Or a 1972 corvette over a 69?
Or a 2003 Viper over a Gen2 GTS ??
Or a 2018 Mustang over a 2017???? Lol

You picked some extreme examples to make a point. There's nothing from the 70s or 80s that isn't inferior to most anything you could think of. Between the switch to unleaded gas, the fuel economy crisis and the absurd bumper requirements, it was the automotive "dark ages". Otherwise, your examples are just personal preference. For example, I had a 1994 and 2004 Viper. I should have kept the 2004. But a GTS is a coupe and I hate coupes, any coupe.

 

[luc]

Did they stop making manuals in 18?
All the posters seems to be of the 2 pedals variety....
Seriously, the 6 speeds can’t even compare to the 10 speeds
.... but for a manual guy like me, the deal breaker was the fugly front end of the 18 and up....
And yes that is my biased opinion

 

[FreePenguin]

either is fine, both are good cars. I like 17 looks more, but I also like 18 looks too, just one more than other. I am a manual guy so as long as both offered it wouldn't be a deal killer. id go for whichever had the better driving gear ratios though.

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Does it make sense to buy a 2017 gt premium over a 2018+ gt premium to save $2000-3000? I want the digital gauges and navigation but its going to cost me $3-4k extra to get it.

The 2018 will be worth it esp. if you go with the A10. The writing on the specs. paper says 25 hp difference, dynos typically show it is a larger gap, but if you go with the A10 transmission, the performance difference in real life in the 1/4 mile is more like 80 hp when compared to the 2017 M6 or A6 GT. Car and Driver tested the 2018 GT A10 PP1 in the 1/4 mile at 12.1 @ 120 mph. The only Mustangs quicker, ever, are the 662 hp 2013-2014 Shelby GT500 (not the earlier 550 hp versions) and the current 760 hp Shelby GT500. Even the GT350R lags by a tenth and 1 mph in the 1/4 mile behind the A10 GT PP1. The A6 and M6 2017 GT are both 12.8 to 13.0 at 112-113 mph. That's a huge gap in time and trap speed. So, in 0.8-0.9 less seconds, the A10 GT exceeds the M6 or A6 2017 GT by 7-8 mph. Put another way, from 60-100 mph, the A10 GT accelerates 25% quicker than the M6 2017 GT and 27% quicker than the 2017 A6 GT. For comparison, cars that accelerate 25-27% harder than an A10 GT PP1: 2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS and 2017 Porsche 911 Turbo. Others that are less than 25% quicker but close: 2015 Corvette Z06 (23.5% quicker at speed than the A10 GT), 2009 Corvette ZR1 (again, 23.5%), 2018 BMW M5 (23.5%), Charger Hellcat (23.5%). So, from a technical standpoint, the A10 GT PP1 is closer in acceleration to a C7 Z06 and a Hellcat than the 2017 GT is to the 2018 A10 GT PP1.

Even if you installed the performance pack 2, and got close to (but still short) of the power of the Gen 3 Coyote, the acceleration would not match an A10 GT because the transmission is that effective. You'd be closer to an M6 2018, but not the A10.

 

[Copperhead73]

the deal breaker was the fugly front end of the 18 and up....

Fake news. Scientific studies have shown that the 18+ front end is better looking.

 

[Bikeman315]

I want the digital gauges

It will be an auto

Why is it we always forget what the OP wants vs. what we want. There is absolutely nothing wrong or inferior with a 2017 but with these two requests the 2018 would seem to be the way for OP to go.

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Why is it we always forget what the OP wants vs. what we want. There is absolutely nothing wrong or inferior with a 2017 put with these two requests the 2018 would seem to be the way for OP to go.

Good points. But, while there is nothing wrong with 15-17 Mustang GTs...there are things that are technically inferior on the 15-17, including the automatic transmission and the Gen 2 Coyote engine. Those items are certainly not wrong in the 15-17s, but inferior from a performance standpoint. A10 + Gen 3 is a superior powertrain as-is from the factory over the A6/M6+Gen 2 Coyote. It's natural progression, just like the 2010 GT 4.6 is inferior to the 2011 Coyote 5.0. Much of the other stuff is personal preference and not inferior by definition: Styling, digital gauges, etc. I prefer the 18 front and rear (rear by a large margin over the 15-17), and prefer real gauges as opposed to a digital gauge.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Did they stop making manuals in 18?
All the posters seems to be of the 2 pedals variety....
Seriously, the 6 speeds can’t even compare to the 10 speeds
.... but for a manual guy like me, the deal breaker was the fugly front end of the 18 and up....
And yes that is my biased opinion

For you the decision is a little more difficult. There isn't a huge difference in the manuals performance. Like there is with the 10 speed over 6 speed conversation. I could see a manual buyer chosing the older model out of personal preference. And to save a few grand.

 

[FreePenguin]

if op gets a manual though, I highly 1000x thousand percent recommend a hybrid barton 3 shifter, or mgw. I drove a buddies car, and cannot believe how the regular shifter felt. I have a hybrid barton and I could never go back to stock shift throw/notch/feel.

 

[luc]

Good points. But, while there is nothing wrong with 15-17 Mustang GTs...there are things that are technically inferior on the 15-17, including the automatic transmission and the Gen 2 Coyote engine. Those items are certainly not wrong in the 15-17s, but inferior from a performance standpoint. A10 + Gen 3 is a superior powertrain as-is from the factory over the A6/M6+Gen 2 Coyote. It's natural progression, just like the 2010 GT 4.6 is inferior to the 2011 Coyote 5.0. Much of the other stuff is personal preference and not inferior by definition: Styling, digital gauges, etc. I prefer the 18 front and rear (rear by a large margin over the 15-17), and prefer real gauges as opposed to a digital gauge.

Forgot to mention that the manual tranny in the 18 and up is geared wrong compared the a 15/17
At the end of the day a lot is personal preferences and I would have overlooked the ugly front end if I was an automatic guy

 

[2kblacksleeper]

I thought i really wanted to NAV when i got my 18 PP! GT last July. I ended up just getting the bigger screen without NAV.

I am glad i did. Through Android auto i use Waze and or Google maps. That means i never have to buy an updated card or download a new version through a USB for either or them. Like you do with the factory Nav.

The only glitch i found is that i can not use the Ford Pass app and have the maps work. I already have remote start on the key chain.

The A10 is a beast.

Depending on what you want to do with the car, the 6R80 trans has more performance options at this point. There are rumors of better parts coming for the A10.

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