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Too bad about the AWD though. It's making the M240i xDrive or the upcoming M2 xDrive look very appealing as a future car for me.

Pretty sure it was in factory alignment, although I didn't ask him. Pretty sure he's not the typical track kind of guy.

A little of both on the windy mountain roads in eastern Kentucky. (As much as the nannies that can be turned off.) While the tail WILL get out, it's much more prone to mild understeer than tail out oversteer. It was a much less white knuckled experience than my car for sure.

I dunno. I've driven C8 Stingray Z51 and even when you're going all out, it's much easier to control than a Mustang GT. More controlled, more stable, not as eager to seek out a crowd or tree.

Seems like they do pretty good, at least the Z51 mag ride variants. But, it's not really a track beast but more of a GT car.

It will be something priced so far beyond it's actual MSRP that on one will ever get one?

My new daily driver. 35MPG on 87 Octane. Save wear and tear on the Mustang. It may be "smaller", but it's not smaller on the inside. I'm not a truck or SUV person. That being said. These things are hard to get hold of. Got pretty lucky though. 2022 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport Touring. My...

You mean someone not afraid to show their face? Gotta try harder than that Karen.

Of course a lot of Mustang guys are going to hate it or put it down or ridicule some of it's styling, that's to be expected. Every time I see one, I want to run up to it and look. Still looks like a Corvette to me and makes my Mustang look dated in comparison.

It's a beautiful car. Makes the S550 look dated and that's hard to do. It's not even close on what level this car is compared to the Mustang platform.

Ahh, that famous Ford fit and finish. How did that even happen though?

I bought a new 11th generation Honda Civic Hatchback as my daily driver. (shrug). Gets nearly 40 mpg with 87 Octane. Interior quality puts my Mustang GT to shame. So yeah, maybe some of us will start buying smaller cars.

I think that's part of a package? Come to think of it, I don't ever recall hearing a warning sound on my GT/CS. I'm used to the sound on all my other vehicles though.

Then you ARE doing it wrong. Those paddle shifters are there for a reason. :)

You’re doing it wrong is all I can say. 🤪

DCT is where it’s at. I’ll probably never be interested in a manual transmission in a modern car again.

Well, the sudden stoppage of gas fueled vehicles will put millions out of work. Oil companies have a lot of money and power and I am sure that they have their hands in the electric side of things too - if not, none of us would be having this discussion.

The problem is that no real solutions are forthcoming. While all of these countries at the climate summits pretend to work on solutions, they are just looking at ways to line pockets of the elite. Hell, even those who claim to be champions of the environment (Al Gore) are some of the largest...

We'll see. Those old fashioned V8s are bulletproof and make a ton of torque.

It's weird, because the same transmission, in the Camaro, is much better tuned.