More V6 vs. EcoBoost Banter, Please

[BmacIL]

Stop the presses. I just discovered something new. New to me, anyway. It suddenly occurred to me - don't ask why it didn't occure to me before this - that one could order the eBoost WITHOUT the Performance Package! And then save the $2000!

Why is this new?

Well, because the eB comes standard with a 3.31, while the V6 comes standard with a 3.15. So that while the V6 begs for the optional axle and wheels, the eB doesn't need them so much. It already has the 18" wheels and the difference between 3.31 and 3.55 isn't much. Then you get all seasons, too.

Of course there are some gauges and other things you'd be giving up, but you'd give them up with the V6, too.

What do you think of that?

It's up to you! Drive them and see how you like each in comparison. At some point you just have to go do that as pouring over all the options and configurations will just drive you crazy.

I wouldn't say the V6 begs for the optional axle at all. I was more than happy and impressed with it when equipped with the M/T and 3.15. The 3.55 just makes it even better .

Around town (30-40 mph streets, stop lights) the V6 felt more eager as I was getting a 3.7L's torque just off-idle vs. a 2.3L. Once you're in it they're pretty close.

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[Jamo]

...will just drive you crazy.

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It already drove me crazy. You can see what a babbling idiot I've become. I wasn't like this before. For two cents I'd get a Civic SI. Only one way it comes. No decisions to make.

 

[BmacIL]

It already drove me crazy. You can see what a babbling idiot I've become. I wasn't like this before. For two cents I'd get a Civic SI. Only one way it comes. No decisions to make.

I know because I was there! Only after a good amount of seat time in each was my mind made up, and even then there were distractions pulling me the other way. I've yet to go to a dealer that wasn't cool with me driving a Mustang, knowing I didn't plan to buy that day, but was in the market. The best ones hand you the keys and tell you to take all the time you want.

 

[Bay1Stang]

You have to drive them. The main difference will be the sound. The EB has the sound symposer that doesn't sound natural, but it's kind of cool. You have to decide if you like it or not.

 

[TheZman]

It's up to you! Drive them and see how you like each in comparison. At some point you just have to go do that as pouring over all the options and configurations will just drive you crazy.

I wouldn't say the V6 begs for the optional axle at all. I was more than happy and impressed with it when equipped with the M/T and 3.15. The 3.55 just makes it even better .

Around town (30-40 mph streets, stop lights) the V6 felt more eager as I was getting a 3.7L's torque just off-idle vs. a 2.3L. Once you're in it they're pretty close.

Im going to start off by saying the v6 3.7 is a great engine. But i actually took one for a test drive in 2013 when i was considering a Mustang then.. and again in Feb 2015 the day i bought my Ecoboost. I gotta ask honestly did you ever drive the new Ecoboost? And if you did , did you ignore the sales guy and really get on it and get into the Boost?? I had to ask because your description of the power band of the two is totally the opposite of what i experienced.. I felt the v6 was a high reeving engine and i did not feel any torque until around 5k. I remember back in 13 the dealer actually yelled at me because i was getting on it to hard trying to feel the torque.. With the Ecoboost when i got on the throttle i felt alot more torque right off the bat and it was enough to actually make me grin and say to myself yep this is the car for me could only imagine it with the tune! Now there are plenty of high reeving high rpm sports cars that behave similar.. But im sorry as far as feeling the torque that goes to the Ecoboost hands down for me.. So when you say you feel the v6's torque right off idle it has me scratching my head..
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[Ski3143]

I think what he means is there's no lag between foot down, and torque delivery. The ecoboost has turbo lag. It's not awful, but it is noticeable. You're right though it does have a lot of grunt down low.

 

[TheZman]

To the OP.. YOU really have to go out and test all these options on the Mustang yourself and make your own determination.. Listening to my opinion about the EcoBoost and the V6 guy's about there 3.7 is only gooing to make your head spin.. My suggestion you go to as many dealers as you can and drive all the options.. V6 with 3.15's V6 with 3.55's then drive the EcoBoost with the 3.15's then drive the EcoBoost with the Performance Pack and 3.55's.. And you need to get on the throttle and go through all the rpm's screw the sales guy dont just put put the car for a couple miles really test them its your money.. take your time.. really think about it. and determine what YOU liked the best!! One thing to consider one day you may want alot more power. If that day comes were you actually consider a tune youll get over 100 lbs of torque form the EcoBoost for only $600 bucks.. They may be a deciding factor if you feel its a tie and you cant decide in the stock form.. But in the end take you time and test them all.. None of us can make the decision for you we can give you our opinions and thats it! Good luck.. There all Mustangs and there all awsome!

 

[TheZman]

I think what he means is there's no lag between foot down, and torque delivery. The ecoboost has turbo lag. It's not awful, but it is noticeable. You're right though it does have a lot of grunt down low.

Even with the slight Turbo lag the EcoBoost's torque still kicks you way sooner and pushes you back.. The V6 reevs and climbs and climbs and the power band is so stretched by the time the rpm's are above 5k your already really moving and the and just never really felt the thrust come on hard.. Just a real reevy engine that you have to wind out to tap the torque.. Thats what it felt like to me anyway both times i tested it in the 2013 Mustang and in the 2015. Thats how my 2010 Camaro RS was too never really could feel that strong torque feeling from it but it was still quick even tho the Mustang v6 is quicker because of lighter weight but the engines behaved the same.. I ended up trading my Camaro in for a Challenger R/T because i wanted to feel more torque instead of high reevy Horsepower.. IDK just my opinion every ones different..

 

[BmacIL]

Im going to start off by saying the v6 3.7 is a great engine. But i actually took one for a test drive in 2013 when i was considering a Mustang then.. and again in Feb 2015 the day i bought my Ecoboost. I gotta ask honestly did you ever drive the new Ecoboost? And if you did , did you ignore the sales guy and really get on it and get into the Boost?? I had to ask because your description of the power band of the two is totally the opposite of what i experienced.. I felt the v6 was a high reeving engine and i did not feel any torque until around 5k. I remember back in 13 the dealer actually yelled at me because i was getting on it to hard trying to feel the torque.. With the Ecoboost when i got on the throttle i felt alot more torque right off the bat and it was enough to actually make me grin and say to myself yep this is the car for me could only imagine it with the tune! Now there are plenty of high reeving high rpm sports cars that behave similar.. But im sorry as far as feeling the torque that goes to the Ecoboost hands down for me.. So when you say you feel the v6's torque right off idle it has me scratching my head..
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First off: as mentioned several times on this thread, the 2015 3.7 makes a lot more low end torque than the 2011 - 2014. I agree with you that the previous gen didn't have a whole lot until after 4000 RPM. That difference makes the 2015 3.7 feel just as strong if not stronger than the EB from 800 to 2500 RPM (what I mean by off idle), and only a little bit lacking thereafter.

I drove three EB cars (all perf pack) and four V6. I had plenty of real world time in them to make my decision. The OP needs to go and drive them, go home and think about it, and then drive some more. You're going to get a quick and fun car no matter what you pick.

 

[Joe_Stang]

Yeah no doubt the ecoboost puts you back in the seat a little more due to the more torque but stock vs stock the cars perform the same as far as quarter mile times and 0-60 times. But like everyone said drive them both decide what you like and decide if your going to want more performance out of it down the road if so the ecoboost will be cheaper to get more performance.

 

[TheZman]

First off: as mentioned several times on this thread, the 2015 3.7 makes a lot more low end torque than the 2011 - 2014. I agree with you that the previous gen didn't have a whole lot until after 4000 RPM. That difference makes the 2015 3.7 feel just as strong if not stronger than the EB from 800 to 2500 RPM (what I mean by off idle), and only a little bit lacking thereafter.

I drove three EB cars (all perf pack) and four V6. I had plenty of real world time in them to make my decision. The OP needs to go and drive them, go home and think about it, and then drive some more. You're going to get a quick and fun car no matter what you pick.

I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree.. For ME the 2015 V6 felt similar to the 2013 to me in how the torque and horsepower came on and behaved through out the rpm range.. Its like it has smooth even torque through out the rpm's and then in the higher rpms's its actually like the Horsepower is finally trying to kick in or something.. I just never felt and really hard spike or hard hitting jolt of heavy torque.. like i said it was more even or gradual and then in the upper rpms you felt a little more..

 

[Joe_Stang]

I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree.. For ME the 2015 V6 felt similar to the 2013 to me in how the torque and horsepower came on and behaved through out the rpm range.. Its like it has smooth even torque through out the rpm's and then in the higher rpms's its actually like the Horsepower is finally trying to kick in or something.. I just never felt and really hard spike or hard hitting jolt of heavy torque.. like i said it was more even or gradual and then in the upper rpms you felt a little more..

Totally agree with you on this you hit it dead on

 

[TheZman]

Yeah no doubt the ecoboost puts you back in the seat a little more due to the more torque but stock vs stock the cars perform the same as far as quarter mile times and 0-60 times. But like everyone said drive them both decide what you like and decide if your going to want more performance out of it down the road if so the ecoboost will be cheaper to get more performance.

Thats all im really trying to say.. Its just a different and stronger sharper torque curve on the Ecoboost down low early and it jolts you right away harder in your seat and thats in stock form cant even imagine how a some of these tunes feel with the dyno sheets showing a huge 400 ft lb spike of torque right off the bat.. And yes in stock form with the same gears there both going to have similar track times.. Just the power through out the rpms is totally different. The Ecoboost is more hard hitting right off the bat and through the mid range and then falls, and the 3.7 is more mild or moderate in the begging but then keeps climbing and climbing into the higher rpms..

 

[dgc333]

I think "BOOST GAUGE! NEED BOOST GAUGE!" sorry, my brain sees that thing and just turns off.

The EB without the PP has a boost gauge as one of the gauge selections in the center display. That's actually a better position for it, you can actually see it while going through the gears.

 

[Joe_Stang]

Thats all im really trying to say.. Its just a different and stronger sharper torque curve on the Ecoboost down low early and it jolts you right away harder in your seat and thats in stock form cant even imagine how a some of these tunes feel with the dyno sheets showing a huge 400 ft lb spike of torque right off the bat.. And yes in stock form with the same gears there both going to have similar track times.. Just the power through out the rpms is totally different. The Ecoboost is more hard hitting right off the bat and through the mid range and then falls, and the 3.7 is more mild or moderate in the begging but then keeps climbing and climbing into the higher rpms..

Agree with you on this

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