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Is the badge said “Shelby” the complaints would vanish overnight 😂🙈
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While I dislike the dork horse name, I like that they aren't partnering with anybody for the name. But, to be honest I don't care at all about the history or heritage of the mustang or any of the tuner companies they've partnered with. I only buy things based off of the product it's self, and don't want a bunch of badging of any kind.
that’s why they should have stuck with Boss.
 

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Doesn’t seem to have the carbon fiber track pack, so no. But That’s my opinion.


Yeah. Wow. Amazing. You really nailed the whole reason we are “jacked up” over the name and solved the entire issue in ine go.

maybe we should call it the “cervibi” instead though. You know since they make body kits and all.

thanks for respecting our concerns and contributing so deeply to the discussion.
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Is the badge said “Shelby” the complaints would vanish overnight 😂🙈
incorrect.

the car isn’t enough of a leap to be a Shelby GT500 or Cobra.

I actually think it would hsvr rven more backlash if they did call it s Shelby.

thsys something we e gone over multiple times already.

ford had two choices that would work:

1. actually invest in greatness snd csll it Cobra or GT500

Or

2. stock with minimum investment theme of the s550 generation but call it Boss.

either would work.

Dark horse sc? Fail. It’s like having a Mach 1 and Mach 1 sc or boss and boss sc or gt350 and gt350 sc. the top model is always its own thing.

Boss or Mach 1 or SVO etc.

Could you imagine?

ford had already decided to call it boss thrn switched at the last minute.

It’s just a bad choice.

the choice could hsvr been salvaged if they did call car was a generational leap. But even thrn having two dark horses in the lineup is just lame.

makes you wonder if ford really does go forward with confusion by making everything “mustang” and the REAL Mustang gets labeled Dark Horse, Dark Horse SC, etc.

Sheesh.
 

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incorrect.

the car isn’t enough of a leap to be a Shelby GT500 or Cobra.

I actually think it would hsvr rven more backlash if they did call it s Shelby.

thsys something we e gone over multiple times already.

ford had two choices that would work:

1. actually invest in greatness snd csll it Cobra or GT500

Or

2. stock with minimum investment theme of the s550 generation but call it Boss.

either would work.

Dark horse sc? Fail. It’s like having a Mach 1 and Mach 1 sc or boss and boss sc or gt350 and gt350 sc. the top model is always its own thing.

Boss or Mach 1 or SVO etc.

Could you imagine?

ford had already decided to call it boss thrn switched at the last minute.

It’s just a bad choice.

the choice could hsvr been salvaged if they did call car was a generational leap. But even thrn having two dark horses in the lineup is just lame.

makes you wonder if ford really does go forward with confusion by making everything “mustang” and the REAL Mustang gets labeled Dark Horse, Dark Horse SC, etc.

Sheesh.

You just wrote three paragraphs to argue branding semantics, which kind of proves the point. You’re not evaluating the Dark Horse SC on performance you’re debating what deserves the Shelby name. That’s an emotional bar, not a technical one.

Saying it’s “not enough of a leap” is subjective, especially when it objectively outperforms cars that were called GT500. The fact that your main issue is where it sits in Ford’s naming hierarchy—not what it actually does—reinforces that this is about badge expectations, not capability.
 

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You just wrote three paragraphs to argue branding semantics, which kind of proves the point. You’re not evaluating the Dark Horse SC on performance you’re debating what deserves the Shelby name. That’s an emotional bar, not a technical one.

Saying it’s “not enough of a leap” is subjective, especially when it objectively outperforms cars that were called GT500. The fact that your main issue is where it sits in Ford’s naming hierarchy—not what it actually does—reinforces that this is about badge expectations, not capability.
once again incorrect. I explained why your suggestion of calling it a Shelby would be asking for trouble.

thought I’d get into a little detail out of respect. Obviously it was wasted. Lesson learned.
 

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Except they literally have Shelby parts. It’s a parts bin car just like the Mach, some of the parts might have been upgraded or tweaked slightly but still originate from the S550 Shelby’s. DHSC has the GT500 powertrain. I have driven a DH HP, it’s every bit as good as a GT350 minus the Voodoo. Not liking the car or the name is one thing, but the product itself is every bit as good as the S550’s.
My GT350 was $59K when I bought it new. Pretty expensive. The DH weighs more, makes less HP and costs a lot more.
 

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once again incorrect. I explained why your suggestion of calling it a Shelby would be asking for trouble.

thought I’d get into a little detail out of respect. Obviously it was wasted. Lesson learned.

Sorry if my tone came off too serious or the wrong way 🙈 that wasn’t my intent. I don’t even think “Dark Horse SC” is the best name. But at the end of the day, this is the car Ford built and the name really shouldn’t be that big of a deal. I’m looking at everything else the vehicle has to offer.

And to be clear, I’m not talking about you specifically I’m talking about the broader reaction. The overwhelming majority of complaints I see are centered on the name and where it sits historically, not on the actual capability of the car. A lot of that pushback seems to come from existing GT500 owners who are understandably sensitive about what follows their car.

When the criticism hinges on what it should’ve been called instead of what it actually does, then the issue was never the car ;it was the name.
 

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Sorry if my tone came off too serious or the wrong way 🙈 that wasn’t my intent. I don’t even think “Dark Horse SC” is the best name. But at the end of the day, this is the car Ford built and the name really shouldn’t be that big of a deal. I’m looking at everything else the vehicle has to offer.

And to be clear, I’m not talking about you specifically I’m talking about the broader reaction. The overwhelming majority of complaints I see are centered on the name and where it sits historically, not on the actual capability of the car. A lot of that pushback seems to come from existing GT500 owners who are understandably sensitive about what follows their car.

When the criticism hinges on what it should’ve been called instead of what it actually does, then the issue was never the car ;it was the name.
Thank you. I appreciate and your maturity.

Respectfully, I think it's both - the car and the name, but not because "Dark Horse" is a bad name.

The name isn't an issue because of the name itself. It has become an issue with Ford using it to do away with beloved nameplates. The name "Dark Horse" is actually brilliant. but it has come to mean last gen performance at tomorrow's price and putting nameplates we love into the grave of yesteryear. And that' hasn't gone over well. For Ford to double down on it by calling the new car a name that evokes fairly strong negative feelings (again not because of the name - because of what it now represents) and also muddying up the logical tier lineup. GT, serpent car above GT, and again operate car above that car. It's just a mess.

The talk (mine included) that delves into the territory of "could've, should've, etc" is just a natural progression of this conversation. But again, the car itself is just last gen made viable for 2026. When we consider the S197 generation started with 500, then went up to 540 a few years later as a spec bump, then three years later went way up to 662 with suspension improvements as the mother of all spec bumps all in one generation, the Shelby GT500 really is something that make massive improvements from generation to generation. Moving on from the 2013, we got a 760 HP, DCT, with unbelievable suspension all at once in the s550 generation.

The DHSC would be acceptable were it part of the S550 generation. But being that the s650 is "all new" as Ford calls it, it should represent a generational leap as history has taught us. So far we haven't seen anything to indicate that. If Ford comes out with 900 or 1000 HP power figures, they can shut us all up though. Even with an ugly mug tied to a nt-so-respected name with an unfortunate "SC" next to it, that much power would make it easier to squint sideways when looking at the thing.

I don't think anyone will argue with a 140 HP or 240 HP power jump - even if that's the only truly meaningful change. RTR is at 870 now. So I don't see why Ford wouldn't eclipse that.
 

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I have driven a DH HP, it’s every bit as good as a GT350 minus the Voodoo. Not liking car or the name is one thing, but the product itself is every bit as good as the S550’s.
I drove a DH a few days ago for the first time. Definitely a nice mustang. It was refined and solid. But the added weight and the power difference and personality was noticeably different than the GT350. It's a lot different of an experience. The voodoo changes the car a lot. But yea, the DH is nice to drive.
 

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No. Not with the dash and front end. I think people would still revolt.
 

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A friend saw the DHSC at Daytona today. Said in person it's gorgeous. He has really good taste. Or at least a taste similar to mine. I'm looking forward to seeing one in person.

I think it's probably going to be a great car. Haters are gonna hate, fanboys gonna fanboy. One thing for sure. Those carbon wheels are wrong. And going to be a giant pita to clean compared to the 7 spokes. But if someone buys me one, I'll suffer through the cleaning.
 

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A friend saw the DHSC at Daytona today. Said in person it's gorgeous. He has really good taste. Or at least a taste similar to mine. I'm looking forward to seeing one in person.

I think it's probably going to be a great car. Haters are gonna hate, fanboys gonna fanboy. One thing for sure. Those carbon wheels are wrong. And going to be a giant pita to clean compared to the 7 spokes. But if someone buys me one, I'll suffer through the cleaning.
This is exactly what I mean. It is beautiful in person and those wheels are ugly but when they’re on the car in person, they’re actually nice. 😂
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