What's In DFB's Cabinet?

[MAGS1]

This line in the ADS product description is what says a lot for me......................................

Durability: 15,000+ miles or 1+ years real world tested (lab tested for over double, our competitors would claim this)

In theory that would mean you apply the ADS coating less often, and therefore account for some of the additional cost.

My distant second choice would be C5 Wheel Armour.

I have C5 Wheel Armour on my summer wheels and it only makes it for the season. I drive my car every day, so it’s in the rain, hot temps, etc. but to only get about 4,000 miles out of the C5 is disappointing. I don’t top it with anything so maybe that’s a contributing factor. I have a bottle of ADS Wheel coating and will be polishing my wheels and applying that coating this fall when I take them off for the winter season.

I’ve been really impressed with ADS Quartz so far, so I have high expectations for their wheel coating.

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[skinnyb]

I have new wheels en route to me and want to do something with the surface protection.

ADS seems to be getting the spotlight lately, but are there other recommendations that are 'almost' as good ?

I ask because ADS is quite expensive over here (UK). Without doing much digging, a perfect example from my first google search :

What would the top three recommendations be - which I can then use to figure out what I can get hold of at a reasonable cost ?

WD

I considered the C5 Wheel armour as well as Gyeon Q2 Rim before I became aware of the ADS wheel. I went with the Gyeon Q2 Rim. My Mach 1 has 10K miles on that coat and it is still holding up well. I watched youtube videos ad nauseum and every test I saw found the Gyeon came out on top over the Gtechniq.. But I agree with @DFB5.0 , the ADS takes the cake for sure. I have applied it 3 times now on other folks cars and it just works awesome...

 

[DFB5.0]

I considered the C5 Wheel armour as well as Gyeon Q2 Rim before I became aware of the ADS wheel. I went with the Gyeon Q2 Rim. My Mach 1 has 10K miles on that coat and it is still holding up well. I watched youtube videos ad nauseum and every test I saw found the Gyeon came out on top over the Gtechniq.. But I agree with @DFB5.0 , the ADS takes the cake for sure. I have applied it 3 times now on other folks cars and it just works awesome...

It's my favorite ceramic coating, full stop!

 

[skinnyb]

It's my favorite ceramic coating, full stop!

I am really impressed with it. And all the ADS coatings. The glass coating so far is performing amazing. Quartz for paint is great too. The trim coating infused with black dye so far is awesome. And I haven't tried Phobic yet but if its anything like Gyeon Cancoat it will be awesome

 

[MrMike]

I have C5 Wheel Armour on my summer wheels and it only makes it for the season. I drive my car every day, so it’s in the rain, hot temps, etc. but to only get about 4,000 miles out of the C5 is disappointing. I don’t top it with anything so maybe that’s a contributing factor. I have a bottle of ADS Wheel coating and will be polishing my wheels and applying that coating this fall when I take them off for the winter season.

I’ve been really impressed with ADS Quartz so far, so I have high expectations for their wheel coating.

I'm interested in the difference here as I'll need to re-coat my wheels next year. Keep me posted please.

I realize my use case is on the gentler side since I drive the car at most 100 days a year and it's garaged. The rubber from track use doesn't really seem to harm the coating that much, nor does the OEM brake dust.

 

[DFB5.0]

I've known about the FEYNLAB brand for a quite a while now. However, because they are heavily focused on ceramic coatings, I never really looked into the brand other than to see what they offer. What I didn't realize until now was how FEYNLAB were a pioneer in the ceramic coating industry, producing a range of coatings for automotive, marine, and aerospace, as well as the supporting maintenance products. Originally for professional use only, the brand has moved beyond that and now sells into the enthusiast market.

Global Pioneers in Automotive Ceramic Coating | FEYNLAB®

FEYNLAB AUSTRALIA – The Leader in Paint Protection

Researching this post, I came the following quotes -

FEYNLAB pioneered nano resin systems and continues to push the boundaries of this technology. One of our founders, John Suerth, first coined the term “Ceramic Coating” over 15 years ago, and no one better understands this topic.

Take note of the bolded part in the next quote. I'm led to believe FEYNLAB is where Pan sources his coatings and/or some of the other products that sells under the CLEAN by Pan The Organizer brand.

FEYNLAB first distributed its revolutionary coating products as a private label for well-known coating brands, quickly establishing an outstanding reputation for durability, appearance, and protection.

With the amount of trash-talk that is going on in the detailing circle at the moment regarding who makes their own products, and who simply white labels someone else's, I think this says a lot..................

Almost all of our materials arrive as raw commodities in simple 55-gallon drums. Unlike other producers, who outsource manufacturing, and nearly every FEYNLAB product is produced in-house.

Utilizing over 100 carefully-selected raw materials, FEYNLAB formulates our lineup of products. Controlling the manufacturing of chemicals and compounds allows the highest possible quality control for each product.

FEYNLAB complete control over all aspects of the manufacturing process puts us ahead of competitors in the nano coating and vehicle care industry. This strategy allows us to quickly release newly developed products while ensuring the highest quality standards.

We utilize automated filling machines for efficient, accurate, and controlled product bottling. Every bottle is manually inspected before tamper-proof sealing.

All products are carefully inspected again by our efficient in-house packaging and shipping department.

Which leads me to a product that a fellow Autogeek forum member urged me to try, FEYNLAB Hybrid Ceramic Detailer. Considering how much of a pioneer the brand has been, it's rather odd that this new product should be given such an unimaginative name..................how many other brands use the term "hybrid ceramic", in fact it makes me think of a whole range of products from Turtle Wax and Meguiar's and not of a high-end professional brand.

FEYNLAB® Hybrid Ceramic Detailer | Quick Shine Enhancement

FEYNLAB® HYBRID CERAMIC DETAILER – FEYNLAB AUSTRALIA

As with any of these detail sprays, I'm generally using these as a post wash drying aid topper. While the brand claims 3-months durability, I really have no interest in that when it comes to drying aids and toppers. Instead, I'm looking for ease of use, slickness and gloss..............in that order. And this product delivers!

First, the ease of use is off the scale. FEYNLAB put an emphasis on reducing the possibility of streaking, and in that regard, they nailed it. Applied heavy or light, it doesn't really matter, the product simply flashes away with the wipe of a towel. The only other product that flashes away so easily would be ADS Amplify, but this is even better. That means less towel work.

The gloss and slickness are there too, but probably not as class leading as the ease-of-use factor. I'd say Amplify has a slight advantage here, and products such as Bead Maker, Megs HCD or one of the Slipstream derivatives are slicker and glossier again. So, what do you prefer? Ease of use, or the highest possible gloss and slickness? I'll let you decide.

Despite appearances, the XR6 needs to be polished at some point in the near future. I last corrected the vehicle at the end of December 2020, so I guess its time for a refresh. I probably need to invest in a paint thickness gauge at some point as well, especially for the XR6 as it's been polished many times over its 17-year life and I'm worrying about how much grace I have left.

 

[MAGS1]

I've known about the FEYNLAB brand for a quite a while now. However, because they are heavily focused on ceramic coatings, I never really looked into the brand other than to see what they offer. What I didn't realize until now was how FEYNLAB were a pioneer in the ceramic coating industry, producing a range of coatings for automotive, marine, and aerospace, as well as the supporting maintenance products. Originally for professional use only, the brand has moved beyond that and now sells into the enthusiast market.

Global Pioneers in Automotive Ceramic Coating | FEYNLAB®

FEYNLAB AUSTRALIA – The Leader in Paint Protection

Researching this post, I came the following quotes -



Take note of the bolded part in the next quote. I'm led to believe FEYNLAB is where Pan sources his coatings and/or some of the other products that sells under the CLEAN by Pan The Organizer brand.



With the amount of trash-talk that is going on in the detailing circle at the moment regarding who makes their own products, and who simply white labels someone else's, I think this says a lot..................





Which leads me to a product that a fellow Autogeek forum member urged me to try, FEYNLAB Hybrid Ceramic Detailer. Considering how much of a pioneer the brand has been, it's rather odd that this new product should be given such an unimaginative name..................how many other brands use the term "hybrid ceramic", in fact it makes me think of a whole range of products from Turtle Wax and Meguiar's and not of a high-end professional brand.

FEYNLAB® Hybrid Ceramic Detailer | Quick Shine Enhancement

FEYNLAB® HYBRID CERAMIC DETAILER – FEYNLAB AUSTRALIA

As with any of these detail sprays, I'm generally using these as a post wash drying aid topper. While the brand claims 3-months durability, I really have no interest in that when it comes to drying aids and toppers. Instead, I'm looking for ease of use, slickness and gloss..............in that order. And this product delivers!

First, the ease of use is off the scale. FEYNLAB put an emphasis on reducing the possibility of streaking, and in that regard, they nailed it. Applied heavy or light, it doesn't really matter, the product simply flashes away with the wipe of a towel. The only other product that flashes away so easily would be ADS Amplify, but this is even better. That means less towel work.

The gloss and slickness are there too, but probably not as class leading as the ease-of-use factor. I'd say Amplify has a slight advantage here, and products such as Bead Maker, Megs HCD or one of the Slipstream derivatives are slicker and glossier again. So, what do you prefer? Ease of use, or the highest possible gloss and slickness? I'll let you decide.

Despite appearances, the XR6 needs to be polished at some point in the near future. I last corrected the vehicle at the end of December 2020, so I guess its time for a refresh. I probably need to invest in a paint thickness gauge at some point as well, especially for the XR6 as it's been polished many times over its 17-year life and I'm worrying about how much grace I have left.

I really wanted to try their ceramic coating but the coating itself is for professional installers that they have certified only. That’s kept me away from their other products that are available to consumers because I try to keep everything in the same family of products if I can.

 

[Evolvd]

And now there will be a mad rush for Feynlab products

 

[DFB5.0]

Sean from Waxit has kindly sent me four new Koch Chemie products to evaluate.

The FFU is an unfortunate abbreviation for "Fruity Fusion" interior scent. Not the first and probably not the last product to get labeled like that, the German-English translation doesn't always play out well with Koch Chemie.

PFS Perfect Finish Sealant is an odd one. It came with a sprayer, but the consistency is like an old school liquid wax or sealant, and it can be applied with a DA machine or small foam hand applicator. I'm told it has some filling properties, as in it can hide minor imperfections and swirls. I'm also told durability is impressive. Important to note that this is a synthetic polymer sealant rather than an in-vogue Si02-based product.

SCF Spotless Ceramic Finish is a different take on a water-spot remover. Where most in this class are acidic, this one is pH neutral. I'm told it has proved extremely effective, which doesn't always apply to these products.

WG Wet Gloss is Koch Chemie's take on Carpro Hydr02 and Gyeon Wet Coat, as in a spray and rinse product that boosts gloss, slickness and hydrophobic properties. Ideal for wheels and as a quick coating topper.

I have something in mind for all of these in coming weeks.

 

[DFB5.0]

Last week, Sean from Waxit asked if I would be willing to try out a few of the latest Koch Chemie products that have recently been released. Is the Pope catholic? Of course I would!

All but the Perfect Finish Sealant were used today on the Ranger.

After cleaning the wheels and tyres, the first of these products I grabbed was WG Wet Gloss. This is a water activated spray and rinse touch-less sealant, basically Koch Chemie's take on Carpro Hydr02, Gyeon Wet Coat and ADS Beads. Unlike those competitors, Wet Gloss has a slight fragrance to it.

Koch Chemie WG Wet Gloss | Quick Detailer – Waxit Car Care

Application is the same, apply to a clean but still wet surface, then rinse immediately. Now, these wheels are coated so the before and after wasn't dramatic, in this case it's about maintaining that coating. For un-coated wheels, this product improves gloss and slickness, while also adding hydrophobic properties to help with drying. A quick and easy way to add protection and enhance your wheels without having to do an intensive wheels off detail. I also like to use these products for plastic wheel arch liners.

Next, SCF Spotless Ceramic Finish, which is a different take on a water-spot and limescale remover. Where most products in this category are acidic to dissolve mineral deposits that cause water-spots, SCF is actually pH neutral. Now, results from water-spot removers can be hit and miss, but from what I had been told, SCF is one of the most effective yet.

Koch Chemie SCF | Water Spot Remover for Ceramic Coatings – Waxit Car Care

In this case, I used SCF to remove a few light water-spots on the roof, probably created when I had parked the car outdoors for a week. When sprayed onto a clean surface, you then allow SCF to briefly dwell, then wipe with a towel. From here, KCx suggest rinsing with water to remove any residue. Pleasingly, SCF did the trick on those water-spots. Amazingly, it also removed some stubborn water spots from my stainless-steel sink and chromed tap.

After cleaning the interior, the finishing touch was a spritz of Fruit Fusion scent. Nothing revolutionary here, although I've found these last a little longer than some, as in not just an hour. Fruity Fusion joins the Cozy Cotton I got last week.

Koch Chemie Colourlock Interior Fragrance | Air Freshener Spray – Waxit Car Care

Lucky I didn't have those bottles around the other way! I wonder if the Germans realize what they are putting on some of their product labels?

I also continued using FEYNLAB Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, which was called on for drying aid duties.

Finishing things off, I grabbed an old favorite for the tyres, NV Onyx.

 

[DFB5.0]

Apparently I'm an "OG-spec bro...................a genius idea................."

From 33-min mark regarding the drying of the car with Eraser after the decon wash........................

 

[skinnyb]

Apparently I'm an "OG-spec bro...................a genius idea................."

From 33-min mark regarding the drying of the car with Eraser after the decon wash........................

Awesome! its good to be recognized I just couldn't click the link to the video, I can't afford to buy a new computer after I punch the screen, I will take your word for it

 

[Evolvd]

Apparently I'm an "OG-spec bro...................a genius idea................."

From 33-min mark regarding the drying of the car with Eraser after the decon wash........................

He’s been using this method on his last few washes when prepping for polish. Both Emiras and his wife’s Raptor.

 

[radar]

Last week, Sean from Waxit asked if I would be willing to try out a few of the latest Koch Chemie products that have recently been released. Is the Pope catholic? Of course I would!

All but the Perfect Finish Sealant were used today on the Ranger.

After cleaning the wheels and tyres, the first of these products I grabbed was WG Wet Gloss. This is a water activated spray and rinse touch-less sealant, basically Koch Chemie's take on Carpro Hydr02, Gyeon Wet Coat and ADS Beads. Unlike those competitors, Wet Gloss has a slight fragrance to it.

Koch Chemie WG Wet Gloss | Quick Detailer – Waxit Car Care

Application is the same, apply to a clean but still wet surface, then rinse immediately. Now, these wheels are coated so the before and after wasn't dramatic, in this case it's about maintaining that coating. For un-coated wheels, this product improves gloss and slickness, while also adding hydrophobic properties to help with drying. A quick and easy way to add protection and enhance your wheels without having to do an intensive wheels off detail. I also like to use these products for plastic wheel arch liners.

Next, SCF Spotless Ceramic Finish, which is a different take on a water-spot and limescale remover. Where most products in this category are acidic to dissolve mineral deposits that cause water-spots, SCF is actually pH neutral. Now, results from water-spot removers can be hit and miss, but from what I had been told, SCF is one of the most effective yet.

Koch Chemie SCF | Water Spot Remover for Ceramic Coatings – Waxit Car Care

In this case, I used SCF to remove a few light water-spots on the roof, probably created when I had parked the car outdoors for a week. When sprayed onto a clean surface, you then allow SCF to briefly dwell, then wipe with a towel. From here, KCx suggest rinsing with water to remove any residue. Pleasingly, SCF did the trick on those water-spots. Amazingly, it also removed some stubborn water spots from my stainless-steel sink and chromed tap.

After cleaning the interior, the finishing touch was a spritz of Fruit Fusion scent. Nothing revolutionary here, although I've found these last a little longer than some, as in not just an hour. Fruity Fusion joins the Cozy Cotton I got last week.

Koch Chemie Colourlock Interior Fragrance | Air Freshener Spray – Waxit Car Care

Lucky I didn't have those bottles around the other way! I wonder if the Germans realize what they are putting on some of their product labels?

I also continued using FEYNLAB Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, which was called on for drying aid duties.

Finishing things off, I grabbed an old favorite for the tyres, NV Onyx.

Now please don’t take any of this the wrong way D (from someone who only buys on your recommendation), but how do you assess the calibre of these products on that immaculate cab/chassis!

I guess any performance reporting is useful for information provided. Would it be better if you saved more of your testing for the superb job you recently did on that Subaru SUV?

That is real cars in everyday use.

Again please don’t take any of this as criticism - more an observation.

FYI interest did you see recent YT test on Griot’s 3 way? The way that guy tests, I watch things I’m not even interested in.
I’ll find link.
It was Project Farm guy on YT

 

[DFB5.0]

He’s been using this method on his last few washes when prepping for polish. Both Emiras and his wife’s Raptor.

I think it was the Raptor where I chimed in with the suggestion. For me, it's about knowing what your products can do, and knowing Eraser has lubrication properties, it makes sense to use it like that prior to a correction. Also, the IPA content helps flash away moisture.

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