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About to set my car on fire... a finger in the right direction would be very appreciated.

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Yes sir. Probably 100 times
Did you try replacing that camshaft, i have ran into some cars that the tone wheel will shift on the cam causing issues. I can’t remember the make and model of the car but we ended up pulling the cam and comparing it to a new oem cam and the tone wheel had shifted.
 

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When I raced allot Valve guide seals would cause small oil seeps into the combustion chamber causing cold start smoke. Piston oil scrapper rings caused a couple of these but usually kept on a smoking cold or hot. I dreaded having issues which took so much time to find and fix. Later
 

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Dvideo of the start up with the smoke coming out of the rear exhaust?

Wow, sorry to hear of your bad luck. Did you finally fix it?
I have side exhaust. It cleared up. Mine was from me doing something stupid trying to mitigate the crank case pressure. I put a gutted pcv in and I suspected it put oil in the intake tract. It took it about a week or so to clear up. As for the P0016, "we" are tearing the front of the car apart, down to the timing chains today. I'll let you know what "we" find.
 

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I may try to get an engine harness from PBH to hopefully rule out as much wiring issues as possible for myself. Levittown Ford let me order one on backorder but there is no ETA but if that eventually arrives, I will keep as a backup.

This was the first time my engine was fully pulled out of the car so there's no telling what could have been nicked or too frail from almost 10 years of heat cycles. VCT solenoids and camshaft position sensors have been replaced but I need to verify if they've also changed the crankshaft sensor as I think that's part of the same circuit? I won't rule out PCM either since it's been mentioned in this thread.

Just wanted some peace of mind for wiring issues before needing to possibly replace anything mechanical; timing components, camshafts, etc.


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I may try to get an engine harness from PBH to hopefully rule out as much wiring issues as possible for myself. Levittown Ford let me order one on backorder but there is no ETA but if that eventually arrives, I will keep as a backup.

This was the first time my engine was fully pulled out of the car so there's no telling what could have been nicked or too frail from almost 10 years of heat cycles. VCT solenoids and camshaft position sensors have been replaced but I need to verify if they've also changed the crankshaft sensor as I think that's part of the same circuit? I won't rule out PCM either since it's been mentioned in this thread.

Just wanted some peace of mind for wiring issues before needing to possibly replace anything mechanical; timing components, camshafts, etc.


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Are you going to install soon? Let us know how it goes.
 

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Are you going to install soon? Let us know how it goes.
Not yet, I need to double check with PBH on Monday that their harness is what I actually need before ordering.

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I have side exhaust. It cleared up. Mine was from me doing something stupid trying to mitigate the crank case pressure. I put a gutted pcv in and I suspected it put oil in the intake tract. It took it about a week or so to clear up. As for the P0016, "we" are tearing the front of the car apart, down to the timing chains today. I'll let you know what "we" find.
Lol, you gutted your PCV. I might have missed it in your Profile, But did you not vent your crankcase to mitigate case pressure when you installed the whipple? These cars start out with 12:1 compression ratio. On my 2019 GT like yours is 12:1 compression ratio. With my current 14lbs of boost my new compression ratio is around 23:1> and will be around 25:1 after this winter ( ECR=CR∗(1+B/14.7). I run the dual UPR Whipple Ventilation kit with Large Billete check valve and their Valve Cover Vent Filter. At some point crankcase pressure can damage an engine more than just spewing oil mist into your intake track dirting it up.
Did you say you replaced your timing chains, oil pump gears ets? Definitely look their to ensure nothing has changed or slipped timing out of spec. I know the timing can be a little confusing when syncing/timing all 4 cams, so Good Luck Keep us posted

This is good Compression ratio calculator where you can calculate your current Compression ratio with you boost level.

https://calculator.academy/boost-to-compression-ratio-calculator/
 

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I had a vented cap on the oil filler, but was thinking I wanted more. The centrifugal guys do the gutted pcv so I tried that, but it was a bad idea. I reached out to Whipple about additional venting and they said you really shouldn't need any venting, to just route things they way they are designed, but if I do want to vent, route it a certain way. I have since gone back to no venting other than the way it is set up from Whipple originally, so far so good. I'll let you know what we see on these timing chains when we get it uncovered.
 

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I had a vented cap on the oil filler, but was thinking I wanted more. The centrifugal guys do the gutted pcv so I tried that, but it was a bad idea. I reached out to Whipple about additional venting and they said you really shouldn't need any venting, to just route things they way they are designed, but if I do want to vent, route it a certain way. I have since gone back to no venting other than the way it is set up from Whipple originally, so far so good. I'll let you know what we see on these timing chains when we get it uncovered.
I feel your pain, been their done that. I have built so many engines including blueprint them, and I have learned that shit does just happen sometimes. I would never Not vent my case as much as possible up to "IF" nessasary installing a bungs just past the cats to vent my case pressure If I couldn't adequately do it otherwise.
For me, if my car was not my main mode of transportation, I would wait on the harness until I verified cam timing. Either way Keep us posted.
 

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Alright I just ordered a new engine harness from PBH after they confirmed it's what I was looking for. We'll see how it goes when it comes time to reconnect everything... if anything, at least I'll have a fresh harness for the car before digging in further to verify timing components.
 
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Alright I just ordered a new engine harness from PBH after they confirmed it's what I was looking for. We'll see how it goes when it comes time to reconnect everything... if anything, at least I'll have a fresh harness for the car before digging in further to verify timing components.
Just lay the harness on top of the old one then plug and play- see if it fixes the issue or not. That way you don't have to mess with routing and if it doesn't fix it- try to return it. Please keep me updated! Engine Harness, PCM, Camshaft, or new head are all they could possibly be left for me.
 

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I can’t imagine the cylinder head causing this, in the gen3 at least. The sensors mount though the valve covers.
 
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I can’t imagine the cylinder head causing this, in the gen3 at least. The sensors mount though the valve covers.
Have u ever read SSM50103? I have spoke to ford techs about it and it's attached to my vin bc of my build date. An oil leak in the head resulting in a lack of oil pressure to the phaser...
 

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Have u ever read SSM50103? I have spoke to ford techs about it and it's attached to my vin bc of my build date. An oil leak in the head resulting in a lack of oil pressure to the phaser...
Gotcha. You’d see that in a lack of phaser response in detailed logging. I think at least some of these folks are having different and varied, but related issues.
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