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Also isn't the MACH E a " Mustang " ... that abortion already has 4-DOORS .
Unbridled mode ... GTFOH .
That abortion isn’t even selling well, new or used…. Might as well called it Edsel-E.
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What is it with Ford and f***ing up rear suspensions? Who are they employing for their suspension engineers? I dont get it. I rode in my dad's Mach E back seat this weekend and it was atrocious, incredibly uncomfortable suspension. In the front its not nearly as bad but you can still feel the whole car just jiggling and oscillating and it never settles down. It felt like it was riding on the bumpstops the whole time and instead of dampers it had cinder blocks between the springs and chassis.
 

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What is it with Ford and f***ing up rear suspensions? Who are they employing for their suspension engineers? I dont get it. I rode in my dad's Mach E back seat this weekend and it was atrocious, incredibly uncomfortable suspension. In the front its not nearly as bad but you can still feel the whole car just jiggling and oscillating and it never settles down. It felt like it was riding on the bumpstops the whole time and instead of dampers it had cinder blocks between the springs and chassis.
Does a skateboard have a good suspension? I mean after all, that is what the MOCHE is - it’s just a skateboard platform with a large battery in the middle…
 

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Does a skateboard have a good suspension? I mean after all, that is what the MOCHE is - it’s just a skateboard platform with a large battery in the middle…
Tuning wise it's not really all that different than an f150 with a loaded bed full of say 1800 lbs. The stroke is probably way too short and spring rate very inadequate.

My dad's kia was also like that. Sitting in the rear was almost a jackhammer.
 

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Tuning wise it's not really all that different than an f150 with a loaded bed full of say 1800 lbs. The stroke is probably way too short and spring rate very inadequate.

My dad's kia was also like that. Sitting in the rear was almost a jackhammer.
Believe it or not my sister's 2012 Hyundai Accent hatchback feels like an S-class compared to this thing. I honestly thought there was something wrong with it but apparently it's a common complaint. Shame because otherwise it would be a perfectly adequate and spacious family hauler.

The guys defending its suspension tuning on the forums generally fall in the "it's a mustang! it's not supposed to be comfortable!" or "it's a sports suv, it's supposed to be sporty!" Very cringey.
 

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The guys defending its suspension tuning on the forums generally fall in the "it's a mustang! it's not supposed to be comfortable!" or "it's a sports suv, it's supposed to be sporty!" Very cringey.
the vast majority of "enthusiast" buyers (let alone the public) have NO IDEA what good suspension feels like. I don't know if Honda fixed the Civic R, but BMW majorly screwed up the suspension on several recent M-cars. There's just no excuse for doing suspension badly.
 

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As much as I'd like a RWD sedan at a Mustang price, there were other names they could use.
From the day I found out about the Ford Falcon XR6, I was peeved at Ford USA for assuming I'd rather have a Taurus.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15132384/ford-falcon-xr6-turbo-specialty-file/

Every time somebody asked, for years, Ford went on about how expensive it would be to ship Falcons from Australia and convert them to left-hand-drive.
What kind of dumbass thinks that was their only choice?
Years of thinking "Get the blueprints from Australia and build it in Michigan, dummies!"


Now, we've got another chance to have a Ford Falcon in the USA,
but the marketing nerds would rather cheapen the Mustang name by spreading it around.
 

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The 3.0 is alive and well, it's the only engine option in the explorer ST and it's also used in the bronco raptor. The 3.0 can handle quit a lot, there are plenty who are running 650+ awd hp on an Ex ST with bigger turbos and bigger injectors and pump. There is even someone who has run a 10.59 with one. That's hauling ass for a 5K lb SUV
And my closest E85 pump is over an hour away.
 

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but the marketing nerds would rather cheapen the Mustang name by spreading it around
I blame the avocado toast. Once you go down that path, there is no coming back from enshittification. It's in your blood.
 

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Where’s the rumored Corvette SUV? I forgot about that. Better make it electric for maximum outrage 🤢
 

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you would have to quiet the exhaust and make it a luxury performance car
What, why? If you want a luxury performance sedan, you get a BMW, Merc, or maybe Lexus. This is for people who want to comfortably seat two more people with all (or most) of the fun and theater of a Mustang.
 

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If Ford want to make a 4 door sedan or a 4 wheel drive off road whatever, that's fine but don't pretend it's a Mustang. Just like that EV thing , it maybe ok for an EV but it's not a Mustang.
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