Why did you get a manual

[pepperglenn]

I'm kind of a control freak and like picking my own gears. Most automatics I drive never seem to be in the right gear that I want them to be in so I get manuals instead

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[martin]

Manual cars I have owned: Peugeot 204, twice; Alfa Romeo spider; Datsun 210; Datsun 310; Nissan Maxima 1997 and 2000, both SEs; Subaru Legacy GT and soon to arrive, maybe tomorrow, Mustang

 

[Anvil3]

With modern autos what I said is true. More gears, faster shifting, and none of the drivetrain loss like old school autos.

Doesn't matter how fast a human can shift; an auto will at least match his best and do it every time. Any competitive auto will shift faster than humanly possible, too.

While that's true for a growing number of autoboxes today, I don't think that's true for the S550'S 6AT. I think American Muscle showed that the manual is faster.

That said, I test drove a 6AT and it's pretty good. Nice rev matching in manual mode.

I was also shopping an M235i with an 8AT and that was almost certainly faster than a manual.

 

[JeffreyDJ]

While that's true for a growing number of autoboxes today, I don't think that's true for the S550'S 6AT. I think American Muscle showed that the manual is faster.

That said, I test drove a 6AT and it's pretty good. Nice rev matching in manual mode.

I was also shopping an M235i with an 8AT and that was almost certainly faster than a manual.

Right. What Auto's get you at the track in these are consistency. I'm not sure I'd argue either one is slower/faster, but the auto would be more consistent (e.g. easier) for a majority of drivers who are weekend racers.

 

[Anvil3]

Right. What Auto's get you at the track in these are consistency. I'm not sure I'd argue either one is slower/faster, but the auto would be more consistent (e.g. easier) for a majority of drivers who are weekend racers.

Agreed. I think that an S550 manual has the potential to be a little faster, but at that point the driver makes the difference. The auto would likely be more consistent around a track for novice/average drivers. But I don't think it would be as much fun.

Another thing to consider: Based on what I've read, in stock trim, the 6AT seems to be better matched to the GT than the EB. Some testers thought the shift points are not as well chosen in the EB. Of course, that doesn't matter if you're using the paddles in manual mode. Or if you have it tuned.

 

[Mike G]

I'm kind of a control freak and like picking my own gears. Most automatics I drive never seem to be in the right gear that I want them to be in so I get manuals instead

Unlike the Mustang Manual Transmission Taliban I'm fine with automatics in these cars, but I agree with you 100% on the control factor. Bugs the crap out of me every time I drive an automatic.

 

[OppoLock]

While that's true for a growing number of autoboxes today, I don't think that's true for the S550'S 6AT. I think American Muscle showed that the manual is faster.

That said, I test drove a 6AT and it's pretty good. Nice rev matching in manual mode.

I was also shopping an M235i with an 8AT and that was almost certainly faster than a manual.

Trust me, I'm with you on every point you just made to a tee. Even had the opportunity to drive a Mk7 GTI with its DSG and an M235i with the ZF8 back to back, not too far out from my drive in an EB with the 6AT. I've said it in the past: the S550's auto is average at best, but like you just pointed out, the throttle-matching on downshifts is impressive, even going from 2nd to 1st... no bucking at all. The ZF8 is in another league. So I should put emphasis on my last post ITT when I said "competitive" auto lol.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=313423&postcount=106

 

[coltgus]

I bought the manual because I wanted a Bullitt and they only come that way. It is way more fun to drive. The rev matching on down shifts makes that easy. If you have to learn how to drive a stick here are some tips. When you start off make sure the tach is at least 1k and keep it there. When you shift from 1st to 2nd you need the rpm to drop about 1/3 so if you shift at say 4500 rpm let the clutch out when the tach is 3k. when going from 2nd to 3rd the drop needs to be 30% so just multiply in your head by .7 so if you shift at say 4k let the clutch out at 2800. If you do that you won't even feel anything when you shift. The other gears a 25% drop is about right but it doesn't matter as much.

 

[WD Pro]

I bought the manual because I wanted a Bullitt and they only come that way. It is way more fun to drive. The rev matching on down shifts makes that easy. If you have to learn how to drive a stick here are some tips. When you start off make sure the tach is at least 1k and keep it there. When you shift from 1st to 2nd you need the rpm to drop about 1/3 so if you shift at say 4500 rpm let the clutch out when the tach is 3k. when going from 2nd to 3rd the drop needs to be 30% so just multiply in your head by .7 so if you shift at say 4k let the clutch out at 2800. If you do that you won't even feel anything when you shift. The other gears a 25% drop is about right but it doesn't matter as much.

And I thought I was bad for overthinking things ... lol

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[Adamone92]

I bought the manual because I wanted a Bullitt and they only come that way. It is way more fun to drive. The rev matching on down shifts makes that easy. If you have to learn how to drive a stick here are some tips. When you start off make sure the tach is at least 1k and keep it there. When you shift from 1st to 2nd you need the rpm to drop about 1/3 so if you shift at say 4500 rpm let the clutch out when the tach is 3k. when going from 2nd to 3rd the drop needs to be 30% so just multiply in your head by .7 so if you shift at say 4k let the clutch out at 2800. If you do that you won't even feel anything when you shift. The other gears a 25% drop is about right but it doesn't matter as much.

Holy necromancy.

I hope hes learned how to drive stick in the past 6 years. This is one of OPs only threads and he hasnt been back since early 2015.

 

[Biggus Dickus]

Every car I've owned since my 1990 Mustang GT convertible has been a manual (on #9 and #10 now) and I'm going to bang gears as long as I can. Some of my favorites were manual only: 2003 Cobra (1 Coupe and 1 Vert), 2007 ZO6, and the RS.

Plus there is the added benefit of anti-theft and you can't borrow a car you can't drive.

 

[WD Pro]

Holy necromancy.

I hope hes learned how to drive stick in the past 6 years.

He’s still parked on the drive trying to figure out the maths in his head ...

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[Biggus Dickus]

Holy necromancy.

I hope hes learned how to drive stick in the past 6 years.

Shame on me - I got sucked in.

 

[Adamone92]

Plus there is the added benefit of anti-theft and you can't borrow a car you can't drive.

Agree with second part.

Anti theft has always been a weird argument to me. You think someone that can break into and start your car, and most likely has done it before...cant drive manual?

I too prefer the manual though

 

[coltgus]

Remind me to look at when the blankety blank thread was started from now on.

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