Buyer's Remorse..?

[Keyser_Soze]

I drove the EB, I just couldn't get myself to buy a turbo 4 plus I do want a NA motor since I plan on keeping it for it's entire span.
Haven't drove a GT with a M/T..

PRG- sorry don't know how to quote multiple....
At the time it was an excitement buy, I think.
I really am trying to fall in love with the vehicle. It just hasn't happened yet.
The thing is after my 89' I stopped looking into mustangs or sport cars really.. I heard huge hype about the 3.7, has more horse and tq then my fox 5.0 which is incredible. It just has begun to turn into a regular car to me now.

Sounds like you're not feeling the 'sensation' of speed - as they say, it's funner to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow (or in traffic). Sound deadening and cabin isolation do a lot to remove that in the name of refinement. Sounds like the vehicle isn't at the right point on the isolation/raw experience spectrum for you, and you should avoid impulse buys for this exact reason. Test drive and wait a few days instead of buying it right up... :headbonk:

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[Keyser_Soze]

Zack posted a great sounding muffler in the V6 forums. This one sounds great if you ask me.

Wow, other than the redline rasp, you're absolutely right. That thing is a beast.

 

[Hack]

I'm not sure based on your posts, but I am getting a couple things:
1. You are not a manual transmission guy. Lots of people are this way. I actually enjoy the manual more in traffic because I can play with it. You say you dread traffic, so you don't seem to enjoy messing with gears, etc. Seems like you want more of an appliance vehicle than a fun vehicle almost, but I'm not sure whether I'm reading you right on this.

2. I'm confused about the V6 performance thing. Not sure if you aren't doing it right or what the problem is. I have a GT and my previous car was a GT, but before that I owned a 2011 V6 manual transmission. I loved that you could get rubber at ~60mph shifting into third. I thought it was a lot of fun to drive. Maybe you aren't holding the revs or shifting hard enough? You want to work the clutch and shifter quickly and just barely let off the gas for a split second to get a nice hard shift and take advantage of the rotating mass of the engine to help accelerate the car. I guess that's an overly wordy explanation for wind the engine out near the redline and then shift hard. I think you will like the results.

Performance/fun cars aren't for everyone. Not sure whether a PP ECOboost would be better for you or not. You should test drive a few different cars and see what you like. Maybe you need an automatic.

 

[cbrookre]

So just recently picked up a stang... v6 m/t with the optional 051a package...
After 1k miles, and about a month of driving.... Its just not doing it for me.

Now even though I knew how to drive manual before, this is MY first manual car.. I upgraded from a 2012 altima 4 cylinder with an auto... so a step up in power big time.
SO my question is...
Is it just the v6 with not enough power that isn't making me happy?
Should I have gotten the auto?

OR is mustang just not for me?
(Yes i owned a 1989 fox 5.0 which i LOVED but an auto)

Please any feedback, comments, anything really...
I know im going to take a 4 to 5k hit on returning it. :(

I do not know how else to address this other than to be a little harsh, so sorry in advance.

What is it you are looking to get out of this discussion? You presented a very non-specific problem statement and asked complete strangers who have very different taste and expectations, as well as life situations, to tell you why you are not satisfied with your purchase. There are many thousands of reasons why this could be, most of which have absolutely nothing to do with the actual car itself. Most people who regret an impulse buy realize that they had something else going on in their life which made them unhappy, bought the item (car) to fill that unhappiness and regretted it because the hole that they were trying to fill with item XYZ was not touched by the purchase. So... if you are looking for a psychiatrist they will not be on the board to help you.

If this is not the case and you actually are just not getting what you wanted out of the car, can you please be more specific? What was you intention of getting the car? What did you expect? What specifically are you not happy with? Were you looking to carve canyons at breakneck speed? Were you looking to experience a manual transmission and it's level of control and rewards? Were you looking to have a straight line beast that you could use to blast the Camaro of your arch nemesis? Were you looking to feel the rumble of a powerful engine and the joyous chorus that is produced by the press of your right foot? Burn rubber like it is free?

You can not possibly expect to have the right answer to your problem without asking an actual question, please help us to help you!

Best Regards,

Chris

 

[souprmage]

Thanks!

Yah I'm really torn between the EB and GT. I was looking at an A3/A4/A5 before I saw the Mustang and so I'm in this mode of "Well you were going to get an Audi and that was a 2.0 Turbo so that would mean you should get the EB"

Then you have the whole "Well for what you were paying for the Audi, you could get a GT and that would then be like getting an Audi RS5".

So then I was more swayed to the GT but now I'm really wondering if I need the power and just should go with the EB, get the Cobb Tune (which supposedly really makes it feel 'right').

I mean the EB is well above the 220 HP A5 and is right under the Audi S5 with 333HP, the EB is 315HP but with the Cobb tune it puts it up there in the 330 range.

The things I'd want from the EB though is the PP but I hate the dash and I hate the rims.

...soooooo torn.

Keep in mind, the 50th Appearance Pkg deletes the PP dash and gets you the Axle spun dash.

Just get the GT, no regrets.

 

[Spartan]

Keep in mind, the 50th Appearance Pkg deletes the PP dash and gets you the Axle spun dash.

Just get the GT, no regrets.

Yah at the end of the day that will most likely be my decision in getting the GT. I get everything I want (dash, vents, grill, leather, etc). I just get a super engine =)

 

[mizer67]

Getting the sensation of speed is tough sometimes in modern cars.

All the NVH reduction, while good in a sense, also makes the cars a little sterile. Manual trans. can actually do the same thing depending on when and how you shift. If you're not downshifting quickly to accelerate and/or bogging it down, it does feel slower than any auto, as it does if you're not using the upper RPM range.

Anecdotally, I've owned a C5 and C6 Corvette and neither really felt "fast" to me, not like the muscle car I grew up driving, which was a big POS, but all the rattles and creaks and engine noise and poor suspension, etc. combined to give a more thrilling ride at times.

If you're not interested in modifying I'm not sure you can really "fix" that though. Gears would be a big help to get you into the power band of the V6 quicker. 3.15's are still a bit to tall, IMO. Gears, exhaust and a tune would help out a lot without breaking the bank.

 

[cbrookre]

Getting the sensation of speed is tough sometimes in modern cars.

All the NVH reduction, while good in a sense, also makes the cars a little sterile. Manual trans. can actually do the same thing depending on when and how you shift. If you're not downshifting quickly to accelerate and/or bogging it down, it does feel slower than any auto, as it does if you're not using the upper RPM range.

Anecdotally, I've owned a C5 and C6 Corvette and neither really felt "fast" to me, not like the muscle car I grew up driving, which was a big POS, but all the rattles and creaks and engine noise and poor suspension, etc. combined to give a more thrilling ride at times.

If you're not interested in modifying I'm not sure you can really "fix" that though. Gears would be a big help to get you into the power band of the V6 quicker. 3.15's are still a bit to tall, IMO. Gears, exhaust and a tune would help out a lot without breaking the bank.

I think this is a good point. The modern cars are much better driver's cars, can get you where you want to go much faster and, in general behave, themselves much better than cars of the past. But part of the excitement factor is the sensation of possibly losing control at some point, being on the edge of it at least. The best sensation of speed that I have had did not come from cars at all (not even my friend's 550RWHP 2003 Cobra), but actually a single horsepower actual horse. When I was much younger we used to race quarter horses around barrels and such, and that sensation of anything can happen and holding on for your life was much more thrilling for that exact reason, you were always on the verge of losing control and had to literally hold on the whole time.

Chris

 

[Fox5.0]

I do not know how else to address this other than to be a little harsh, so sorry in advance.

What is it you are looking to get out of this discussion? You presented a very non-specific problem statement and asked complete strangers who have very different taste and expectations, as well as life situations, to tell you why you are not satisfied with your purchase. There are many thousands of reasons why this could be, most of which have absolutely nothing to do with the actual car itself. Most people who regret an impulse buy realize that they had something else going on in their life which made them unhappy, bought the item (car) to fill that unhappiness and regretted it because the hole that they were trying to fill with item XYZ was not touched by the purchase. So... if you are looking for a psychiatrist they will not be on the board to help you.

If this is not the case and you actually are just not getting what you wanted out of the car, can you please be more specific? What was you intention of getting the car? What did you expect? What specifically are you not happy with? Were you looking to carve canyons at breakneck speed? Were you looking to experience a manual transmission and it's level of control and rewards? Were you looking to have a straight line beast that you could use to blast the Camaro of your arch nemesis? Were you looking to feel the rumble of a powerful engine and the joyous chorus that is produced by the press of your right foot? Burn rubber like it is free?

You can not possibly expect to have the right answer to your problem without asking an actual question, please help us to help you!

Best Regards,

Chris

Not looking for sympathy really, just guess i expected more out of the v6 than was to be expected. I feel as if im just driving a regular car through the canyon no smile, or "in the seat" feel. I am starting to understand that I might just need the v8 to be satisfied. Heck maybe i just need a cruiser like the challenger or something. Also when it comes to handling i can feel the back end kind of loose when taking turns? Don't know if its due to the new IRS or... Maybe its just me? Might head to a dealer to drive a GT with the M/T and see if it fixes the problem.
Thank you everyone for the input, it all helps even though i cant pin point the reason to my madness.:doh:

 

[vanguard]

what is the reason you didn't test drive all the engine options prior to purchase?

 

[Bay1Stang]

Are you comparing the performance to the altima only or do you have any other car driving experiences more powerful than the V6 mustang? The vast majority of people that drive the car are satisfied and/or impressed with the performance.

edit: I get the 'in the seat' feel out of my v6 mustang.

 

[cush]

So just recently picked up a stang... v6 m/t with the optional 051a package...
After 1k miles, and about a month of driving.... Its just not doing it for me.

Now even though I knew how to drive manual before, this is MY first manual car.. I upgraded from a 2012 altima 4 cylinder with an auto... so a step up in power big time.
SO my question is...
Is it just the v6 with not enough power that isn't making me happy?
Should I have gotten the auto?

OR is mustang just not for me?
(Yes i owned a 1989 fox 5.0 which i LOVED but an auto)

Please any feedback, comments, anything really...
I know im going to take a 4 to 5k hit on returning it. :(

The V6 model has plenty of power for a daily driver, but if you want your sphincter to pucker a little ya need the GT PP!!

 

[cbrookre]

Not looking for sympathy really, just guess i expected more out of the v6 than was to be expected. I feel as if im just driving a regular car through the canyon no smile, or "in the seat" feel. I am starting to understand that I might just need the v8 to be satisfied. Heck maybe i just need a cruiser like the challenger or something. Also when it comes to handling i can feel the back end kind of loose when taking turns? Don't know if its due to the new IRS or... Maybe its just me? Might head to a dealer to drive a GT with the M/T and see if it fixes the problem.
Thank you everyone for the input, it all helps even though i cant pin point the reason to my madness.:doh:

Not saying you are looking for sympathy, just that you are not asking a question that has an answer. The possible reasons that you are not satisfied with the car number in the thousands and are very personal. You mention the "canyon" which brings to mind switchbacks, curves and such but then you mention a Challenger. The Mustang will be far more of an entertaining car through the canyon roads than a Challenger, and unless you are purely looking for pulling power out of the curves, the V6 and EB will be equal canyon carvers to the V8. You can feel the backend kicking out because it is a RWD car, and has a tendancy to oversteer under throttle (backend kicking out) and that feeling will be much more pronounced with the V8 GT version. Maybe you would be more pleased with a Focus ST or similar FWD hot hatch? My point was without more specifics in what you prefer you are never going to get to your answer... From the responses there are obviously many people willing and eager to help you figure this out, but you have to be the driver tp the discussion here.

Chris

 

[Fox5.0]

Are you comparing the performance to the altima only or do you have any other car driving experiences more powerful than the V6 mustang? The vast majority of people that drive the car are satisfied and/or impressed with the performance.

edit: I get the 'in the seat' feel out of my v6 mustang.

I recently borrowed my friends 2013 335i which is only rated at 300 hp & 300 lb. tq and weighs about the same I believe. Maybe a little less. But it felt worlds faster, and I got that feel of "in the seat". To throw in I had this feeling with the Stang before I drove the bimmer.

 

[Fox5.0]

Not saying you are looking for sympathy, just that you are not asking a question that has an answer. The possible reasons that you are not satisfied with the car number in the thousands and are very personal. You mention the "canyon" which brings to mind switchbacks, curves and such but then you mention a Challenger. The Mustang will be far more of an entertaining car through the canyon roads than a Challenger, and unless you are purely looking for pulling power out of the curves, the V6 and EB will be equal canyon carvers to the V8. You can feel the backend kicking out because it is a RWD car, and has a tendancy to oversteer under throttle (backend kicking out) and that feeling will be much more pronounced with the V8 GT version. Maybe you would be more pleased with a Focus ST or similar FWD hot hatch? My point was without more specifics in what you prefer you are never going to get to your answer... From the responses there are obviously many people willing and eager to help you figure this out, but you have to be the driver tp the discussion here.

Chris

Chris,
I don't feel the same in the 335i. I understand it's almost 40k more but no way my car which is rated around the same numbers... Feels like a slouch, engine and handling.

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