Mustang Dark Horse "market adjustments"

[KingKona]

Thanks......but uggg.....auto.

What's weird is those cars aren't on Cargurus. So there's more out there than I know about.

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[illtal]

My wife and I went to buy a city car, Kia was charging 4k just to buy the car. I told them to eat a bag of dicks and bought a Mazda instead. Funny thing is people were there trying to buy the car WITH the ADM while we are trying to make a deal. I don't understand why anyone would be so loose with money with these interest rates on auto loans.

I would definitely be looking at nicer cars if I'm going to spend a minimum of 4k extra on a vehicle with a particular trim.

 

[Silver Bullitt]

Thanks......but uggg.....auto.

What's weird is those cars aren't on Cargurus. So there's more out there than I know about.

There’s a shit-ton of used ones out there for about the same price, quite a few with 1K miles or less. My guess is dumbasses paying premium+ pricing and then not being able to make the payments.

 

[KingKona]

My wife and I went to buy a city car, Kia was charging 4k just to buy the car.

Are you saying KIA is selling cars for $4K?

'Cause I'm all in on that shit.

 

[Jasonb543]

We need to get past the ADM issue.

the whole point is the car is under valued. So until MSRP finds it’s true price, the ADM allows it to get there quicker.

if market metrics bear out people paying 85-90K for a DH… then MSRP will drift up there over time.
Same with 200k Z06s and 300K soon to be Zr1s.

 

[Evolvd]

Never pay an ADN for a depreciating asset. That's bad business. Wait them out, they will sell for a "market reality" price very soon.

I wouldn't even buy a car for MSRP. It needs to be less than MSRP.

The dark horse will NOT lose its ADM. Three years of GT500 sales bear this opinion out. Those who got their GT500 new for MSRP or less either got very lucky from a small volume dealer or they had a very long relationship with the dealership. Mostly the latter.
Dealers will charge ADM on specialty trims because people will pay it.

 

[KingKona]

The dark horse will NOT lose its ADM. Three years of GT500 sales bear this opinion out. Those who got their GT500 new for MSRP or less either got very lucky from a small volume dealer or they had a very long relationship with the dealership. Mostly the latter.
Dealers will charge ADM on specialty trims because people will pay it.

Horse shit.

A Dark Horse is just a Mach 1, and plenty of those went for below MSRP. As did plenty of GT350s.

 

[illtal]

The dark horse will NOT lose its ADM. Three years of GT500 sales bear this opinion out. Those who got their GT500 new for MSRP or less either got very lucky from a small volume dealer or they had a very long relationship with the dealership. Mostly the latter.
Dealers will charge ADM on specialty trims because people will pay it.

I think it will, Ford will make as many as they can sell. Hence there are MANY dealerships that will drop the ADN to make sales.

The demand drops the price drops. Mach1 ADN eventually fell off, GT350 ADN fell off. GT500 ADN fell off around my parts as well.

It's not exclusive to where you are located, the US is big and people WILL look around for a better opportunity cost.

The fact of the matter is that the dark horse is crept into GT500 pricing. It's quite dumb. Even the of fully loaded Dark Horse is above a GT350 tech.

 

[Evolvd]

I think it will, Ford will make as many as they can sell. Hence there are MANY dealerships that will drop the ADN to make sales.

The demand drops the price drops. Mach1 ADN eventually fell off, GT350 ADN fell off. GT500 ADN fell off around my parts as well.

It's not exclusive to where you are located, the US is big and people WILL look around for a better opportunity cost.

That’s wishful thinking. Like I said, I believe the GT500 sales back up my position. And I shopped the entire country before I bought mine. Still ended up paying ADM even before the market went crazy during and after COVID.

 

[Towerism]

Not a HP though

 

[KingKona]

That’s wishful thinking. Like I said, I believe the GT500 sales back up my position. And I shopped the entire country before I bought mine. Still ended up paying ADM even before the market went crazy during and after COVID.

A Dark Horse isn't a GT500. Not even close.

They will come down in price just like all other Mustangs did/have.

 

[young at heart]

It’s against everything I believe in to pay ADM on a new car, but I guess I could see a little if someone just had to have one. But 20K ADM on a DH (can’t bring myself to spell out that goofy name) puts you in range of a no to low mile ‘22 GT500 still under warranty. Making this decision might just earn you an honorable mention in the fifth edition of a popular medical book: The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

 

[DopamineQuest]

We need to get past the ADM issue.

the whole point is the car is under valued. So until MSRP finds it’s true price, the ADM allows it to get there quicker.

if market metrics bear out people paying 85-90K for a DH… then MSRP will drift up there over time.
Same with 200k Z06s and 300K soon to be Zr1s.

If you think the Dark Horse is undervalued, you're literally in psychosis. They perform no better than Mustang GTs of 6 years ago in a straight line, and are basically just a Mach 1 that looks worse and has Ipads glued onto the dash. 85-90k is slightly used GT500 money, and that car is in a whole different league than the Dork Horse.

 

[Silver Bullitt]

Not a HP though

I thought those were the HP wheels. I didn’t pull up the sticker.

 

[Jasonb543]

If you think the Dark Horse is undervalued, you're literally in psychosis.

I’m NOT saying I think it’s undervalued.

The free market is telling us it is, for now at least.

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