Formula 1 talk.

[Inthehighdesert]

Just because every piece of video nonsense shows up on YouTube doesn’t mean the F1 coverage should follow suit. They simply waited to make sure he was ok before showing it. Not a big deal. The question you should answer is why did you feel the need to see it right away and not be patient.

That's what the presenter said, too, but why should a replay be deemed disrespectful?
It was a public event, which happened in front of thousands of people, armed with mobile phones, and which was bound to be on YouTube in a matter of minutes (it actually was). It's not as if the replay would have divulged something private or shameful about him. Sooner or later we were going to see it anyway.


True, we didn't, but how was this information supposed to influence the decision? I mean, when they found out that Guanyu was all right they showed us the crash. OK, fine. But what if he hadn't been all right? Would they then have not shown any replays at all? I'm sure they would have. So why delay it, then?

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[Bikeman315]

Just because every piece of video nonsense shows up on YouTube doesn’t mean the F1 coverage should follow suit. They simply waited to make sure he was ok before showing it. Not a big deal. The question you should answer is why did you feel the need to see it right away and not be patient.

Agreed. It is standard procedure is any accident situation to delay video until the scene is assessed. This happens in all motor sports.

 

[Vlad Soare]

The question you should answer is why did you feel the need to see it right away and not be patient.

I didn't exactly "feel the need" to see it. I knew I would see it eventually one way or the other. I just found it odd.

 

[Vlad Soare]

Agreed. It is standard procedure is any accident situation to delay video until the scene is assessed. This happens in all motor sports.

Yes, but they crash all the time. There are accidents after accidents in each and every race. Four cars driving into each other and making a mess, causing a red flag, is a frequent occurence. And yet we are never held half an hour in the dark, without having even the slightest clue as to what happened and why. That's why I found it odd.
I guess my confusion comes from not seeing what difference the delay actually made, or was supposed to make, in practice. OK, so it's standard procedure, but whom does it really help, and how? I don't mind procedures when there's a clear reason behind them, but in this particular case the reason seems to elude me.

 

[Bikeman315]

Yes, but they crash all the time. There are accidents after accidents in each and every race. Four cars driving into each other and making a mess, causing a red flag, is a frequent occurence. And yet we are never held half an hour in the dark, without having even the slightest clue as to what happened and why. That's why I found it odd.
I guess my confusion comes from not seeing what difference the delay actually made, or was supposed to make, in practice. OK, so it's standard procedure, but whom does it really help, and how? I don't mind procedures when there's a clear reason behind them, but in this particular case the reason seems to elude me.

The reason is clear and really simple. They do not show accidents where there could be a possible death.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

That right there is the reason point blank. Seeing how the car actually went over the barriers and in to the fence the way it did it was pretty apparent there was major concern for serious injury or worse.

The reason is clear and really simple. They do not show accidents where there could be a possible death.

 

[Vlad Soare]

The reason is clear and really simple. They do not show accidents where there could be a possible death.

If death had actually occurred, would they have not shown any footage at all? Or would they have shown a trimmed down, cosmeticized version? Or something like that?

 

[2morrow]

Glad that Zhou is ok. That was pretty intense.

That was an insane race though. The level of driving exhibited at Silverstone is exactly what F1 needs.

I think that the audience needs to be reminded that racing at all levels is inherently dangerous and we must respect the sport and the people that participate in said sport.

 

[Bikeman315]

If death had actually occurred, would they have not shown any footage at all? Or would they have shown a trimmed down, cosmeticized version? Or something like that?

If I recall the last accident resulting in a death occurred in 2014 at the Japanese GP in Suzuka. Jules Bianchi was the driver who lose his life. He passed in Just 2015 while being in a coma he never came out of. We did eventually see the video but it took some time. Not sure if it was actually shown during the broadcast.

 

[2morrow]

If I recall the last accident resulting in a death occurred in 2014 at the Japanese GP in Suzuka. Jules Bianchi was the driver who lose his life. He passed in Just 2015 while being in a coma he never came out of. We did eventually see the video but it took some time. Not sure if it was actually shown during the broadcast.

IIRC they just showed Bianchi colliding with the crane machine. When Pierre Gasly's friend died in F2 or F3 there was no coverage of the actual accident.

 

[Bikeman315]

Glad that Zhou is ok. That was pretty intense.

That was an insane race though. The level of driving exhibited at Silverstone is exactly what F1 needs.

I think that the audience needs to be reminded that racing at all levels is inherently dangerous and we must respect the sport and the people that participate in said sport.

In addition to the Halo what saved Zhou was the fact the the bottom of the car hit the fence. Very lucky all around.

The driving was great. Lewis doing a double pass on Leclerc and Perez was insane. Everybody drove at the highest level.

 

[Bikeman315]

IIRC they just showed Bianchi colliding with the crane machine. When Pierre Gasly's friend died in F2 or F3 there was no coverage of the actual accident.

Your right. That was Anthoine Hubert at Spa in 2019.

 

[2morrow]

In addition to the Halo what saved Zhou was the fact the the bottom of the car hit the fence. Very lucky all around.

The driving was great. Lewis doing a double pass on Leclerc and Perez was insane. Everybody drove at the highest level.

Totally agree!

On a separate note, one of the things that kind of irked me though is that the announcers kept referring to the race as entertainment/it was entertaining. Yes it was "Entertaining" but I feel that it discredits the drivers and the risk that is involved.

A entertainer is a comedian, a singer, dancer or something of the sort. When the risk of death is present it seems disrespectful to call that entertainment.

Just my .02 and i'll step off the podium now lol.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

The reason is clear and really simple. They do not show accidents where there could be a possible death.

Including spectators. Flying parts could have easily gone thru that catch fence gaps with stands right behind it.

 

[Bikeman315]

Totally agree!

On a separate note, one of the things that kind of irked me though is that the announcers kept referring to the race as entertainment/it was entertaining. Yes it was "Entertaining" but I feel that it discredits the drivers and the risk that is involved.

A entertainer is a comedian, a singer, dancer or something of the sort. When the risk of death is present it seems disrespectful to call that entertainment.

Just my .02 and i'll step off the podium now lol.

I hear what you are saying but I totally "enjoyed" the race. So I guess the phrase kind of fits.

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