Dave Pericak speaks a bit about the Mustang's future

[Hack]

There are many of us on this side of the pond that actually do feel that way (I happen not to be one of them). Ownership of an ICE V8 is a G-d given right and any reason given for the possible elimination of them is a massive government conspiracy.

Now to be honest it does feel at times that the “world is ending tomorrow” folks do take things a little to far. That doesn’t mean that real science exists that our Earth is being harmed and that something needs to be done.

The Earth is fine. If it gets a little warmer or cooler the Earth doesn't care. It's been hotter and colder in the past and will continue cycling in the future whether people are here or not.

I am no tree hugger (i drive a V8 Mustang G-d!- albeit only do about 4k miles a year), but you have to be completely irrational (or psychotic) not to try to do your bit to help the environment and believe the science. Luckily my relatives in the US are not irrational and psychotic. Although i do understand it is generally much easier in the UK to use your car less and use public transport more than in the US.

I am a tree hugger but I know better than to be sucked in by the climate Nazis. I usually plant one or two trees a year. I absolutely love them.

From the EPA:

Transportation includes shipping, freight, and air travel. Targeting low volume sportscars and evil polar-bear killing v8's is pointless. So much more change needs to be made before we actually make a dent in global emissions. Changes that are not as "easy" as banning ICE cars.

Good post. Many people get irrational and faith-based when confronted with the truth about the ICE and the environment.

Basic logic is "ridiculous nonsense" to you?

Look, no matter what the topic is, there's a golden rule to figuring out the basics;

Follow the money.

ETA; I've been on this planet for 50+ years. This all started back in the 1970s with doom and gloom about how Great Britain was going to be largely under-water in 10 years. Which, if you're counting, means 35 or so years ago your country should have become a much, much smaller island.

You still got solid ground under your feet?

I agree with Follow the Money. Lots and lots of people are making tons of money off of "green" this or that.

Just drawing a parallel. And before anyone decides that I’m an atheist, I am an Elder in the Presbyterian Church and lead one of the choirs and play bass in the band that supports them.

I agree that many people who want to take the ICE away ignore logic and facts. Environmentalism is essentially their religion.

Pushed aside without being eliminated might be acceptable.

I think any possibility of losing the V8 is less about the V8 than about the individual losing the ability to make his own choices. Being stuck with somebody else's notion of what you're supposed to want is like having to wear clothes or shoes that don't fit.


Norm

It wouldn't annoy me so much if the green agenda was fact-based and made sense from a scientific point of view.

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[shogun32]

Environmentalism is essentially their religion.

Yup. It has 'sin', it has 'repentance', it has 'indulgences'. It sacrifices unbelievers (denies grants and voice), and has an absolutist world-view, not to mention an unassailable belief in the utter 'rightness' of their science (nee gospel) Nifty, ain't it?

 

[Bikeman315]

I am a tree hugger but I know better than to be sucked in by the climate Nazis. I usually plant one or two trees a year. I absolutely love them.

That’s so sweet. I didn’t know.

 

[Copperhead73]

Yup. It has 'sin', it has 'repentance', it has 'indulgences'. It sacrifices unbelievers (denies grants and voice), and has an absolutist world-view, not to mention an unassailable belief in the utter 'rightness' of their science (nee gospel) Nifty, ain't it?

It even has a crucifix and high priest!

 

[EcoVert]

What was this thread about again

 

[Hack]

What was this thread about again

Whether people who like the current Mustang are going to like the future Mustangs that Ford will be allowed to build?

 

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[Mustang5ohMan]

Bringing back V8 cars like the Charger, Challenger, Camaro and the big V8s is something that keeps my attracted to a car vs. an SUV.
They are fun to drive and suit my personality.
I’ve had 2 Chargers, a 5.7 v8 and a 6.4l v8. Then I switched to the Challenger WideBody 6.4l v8. Nice cars very unique but I grew tired of it, the quality wasn’t there and they seem to attract too much attention good and bad.
I am happy with the mustang so far. Handling seems better, hopefully gas mileage is better and hopefully it’s quicker!

 

[BmacIL]

If you watch any science show about space the ALWAY talk about black holes and there's never one dissenting opinion that they, black holes my not exist. Kind of makes you wonder about the scientific community all they all getting paid to say the same thing.

Dude, there is evidence that black holes exist. It's not a theory.

Many of you who are critical of the scientific community should really expand the sources you get your news and data from.

 

[Hack]

Dude, there is evidence that black holes exist. It's not a theory.

Many of you who are critical of the scientific community should really expand the sources you get your news and data from.

Scientists are human just like all of us. We are all prone to mistakes and bias. And they need money to make a living. Generally they are being paid by someone with an agenda. It's not pretty, but it's reality.

 

[EcoVert]

Scientists are human just like all of us. We are all prone to mistakes and bias. And they need money to make a living. Generally they are being paid by someone with an agenda. It's not pretty, but it's reality.

There maybe are blackholes but no real evidence has come forward and a grainy smudged picture proves nothing. For years scientist had the brontosaurus head on its tail before they found and in tacked skeleton. But in this day and times unfortunately the above statement is very true.

 

[Hack]

There maybe are blackholes but no real evidence has come forward and a grainy smudged picture proves nothing. For years scientist had the brontosaurus head on its tail before they found and in tacked skeleton. But in this day and times unfortunately the above statement is very true.

I don't know enough to comment on your thoughts about black holes. I thought we had evidence, but I haven't looked carefully at the information.

 

[BmacIL]

Scientists are human just like all of us. We are all prone to mistakes and bias. And they need money to make a living. Generally they are being paid by someone with an agenda. It's not pretty, but it's reality.

Yes, every scientist and the people who fund research are used car salesmen. Keep buying more tin foil.

Maybe more people should actually understand science before they declare all of it it rigged and agenda-driven. Yes, human biases can be found in research, but that's why the method works and peer review process works.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Maybe more people should actually understand science before they declare all of it it rigged and agenda-driven. Yes, human biases can be found in research, but that's why the method works and peer review process works.

I think you need to change your sig to:

If you don't like the truth, I care a little bit

 

[Hack]

Yes, every scientist and the people who fund research are used car salesmen. Keep buying more tin foil.

Maybe more people should actually understand science before they declare all of it it rigged and agenda-driven. Yes, human biases can be found in research, but that's why the method works and peer review process works.

Please show me an example where one of the currently accepted climate models, when applied to historical data, accurately predicts temperatures. If there is a model that can be applied starting from 1920 or so and it predicts the global temperatures for the last ~100 years where we have data - I would love to see it.

All I have seen are extreme predictions that the world is ending and those predictions have never, ever come true. Please explain to me why you think the process is working when past predictions have never come true?

It seems like you have blind faith with no factual evidence. I am skeptical because I have been paying attention to past predictions.

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