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GT500 traps similar to a c6 zr1 from.. 2009. /golfclap
This begs the question...How the fuck did chevy add 120hp to the 2019 ZR1 and only pick up 2mph in trap speed? Chevy horsies must be a little smaller than regular horses
Oh, I forgot you take Evans hero run as the norm and compare it to ZL1 magazine times. Tell how many has matched his 11.83 GT time?
Well C6G does have a fast list for the ZL1 and looking at that it's still getting its ass kicked 3 yrs in by a car that hasn't even been released yet.
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This begs the question...How the fuck did chevy add 250hp to the 2019 ZR1 and only pick up 5mph in trap speed? Chevy horsies must be a little smaller than regular horses

Well C6G does have a fast list for the ZL1 and looking at that it's still getting its ass kicked 3 yrs in by a car that hasn't even been released yet.
I would hope it beats it. Do you really think Ford came out with the GT500 to tie it.
 

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Then you can stop talking about here runs because you haven't seen one yet.
I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t think Evans run is not a hero run. Maybe your definition is different then mine and most others.
 

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Like I said, have these times been matched? You don’t think having the GT500 for a whole day on a well prepped track to get the fastest time is not a hero run? I thought you were a drag guy?? You trying to tell me if GM asked you to take there ZL1 to your favorite track for the day and do whatever you can to get the fastest 1/4 mile time, you wouldn’t beat a 11.3 magazine time? And once you got your best time after all day, it’s not a hero run?? This is common sense, not fanboyism
Naw its not a hero run. That's just what good drag racers do. They work at it. You dont take a ZL1 to a track. Run it to a 11.9. And then say well other guys did this. That's what Camaro6 bench racers do! Throw Evans time out. If it makes you feel better. Bums at Vegas went 10.8 in the GT500 in 2000+ DA. In hot lapped cars! And only got a couple runs. The car makes everyone a hero. I dont care about Evans runs. Look at the 10.8s in Vegas. Launch control is doing the work. You just push the gas peddle down.
 

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Like I said, have these times been matched? You don’t think having the GT500 for a whole day on a well prepped track to get the fastest time is not a hero run? I thought you were a drag guy?? You trying to tell me if GM asked you to take there ZL1 to your favorite track for the day and do whatever you can to get the fastest 1/4 mile time, you wouldn’t beat a 11.3 magazine time? And once you got your best time after all day, it’s not a hero run?? This is common sense, not fanboyism
Seems like your the fanboy. Evan said the track was so so at best. Talking to others that drove the car (500), it was easy to drive. But you go ahead and think these bloggers and journalists are drag racers. 10.61 is fast.
 

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Oh, I forgot you take Evans hero run as the norm and compare it to ZL1 magazine times. Tell how many has matched his 11.83 GT time?
You do understand that Chevy has advertised the A10 ZL1 as a 11:40s car and Ford at 10:70s for the 500?
 

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a 68k natural aspirated 495hp base corvette with a z51 suspention pkg Vs 760 Supercharged all out Pony car !! What Kind of comparison is that ..11.1 123mph is stellar for a car like that ..what happenes when we compare Z06 vs Gt500 apples to apples .
 

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You do understand that Chevy has advertised the A10 ZL1 as a 11:40s car and Ford at 10:70s for the 500?
Seems like your the fanboy. Evan said the track was so so at best. Talking to others that drove the car (500), it was easy to drive. But you go ahead and think these bloggers and journalists are drag racers. 10.61 is fast.
You think Evans is just a journalist, he set a 11.83 time in a a10 GT, yet show me where someone has matched it. There were few at the show that got in the 10’s, but most were in low to mid 11’s. Even MT got 11.2.
 

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Facts are GMs controls the conditions of its cars far more than Ford does and relies on its favored press outlets to do initial reporting and tone-setting. When that doesn't work, hey... simulations. As far as track prep, you know that everyone doesn't talk up the track prep. They drive. GM is putting their best foot forward. And it's not as good as the Mustang. Just facts. When youtubers are running 10.7-10.8s in horrible DA and limited runs, you are onto something. The 10.6 that it also ran in Florida is insane.

Ford didn't even toot its own horn. It was allowing tons of people who can hardly be called drivers to find out for themselves and tell the world about it. apparently, they have been blown away.......
Actually, I think GM put less controls on testing than Ford did. During the day the press outlets that got the C8 Stingray had a lot of latitude in terms of where they could take it and how they could test it. The biggest restriction was they didn’t get to keep the cars overnight. They had to give them back at the end of the day and then get them back in the morning for another day of whatever they wanted to do with the car, wherever they chose to do it. Within reason, of course.

Negative against Ford in this post. Just for the record.



Still propping up Chevy and talking down Ford. Huh. Surprise, surprise.

Yes the Mustang completely crushed and humiliated the C8. The C8 isn't even released yet and Ford's rental car already beat it. Sucks to be a Chevy fan.
0-60: Stingray Z51 - 2.8s Base GT500 - 3.3s. Advantage Stingray Z51
1/4 Mi: Stingray Z51 - 11.1s @ 121 Base GT500 - 10.6 @ 133 Advantage Base GT500
Top Speed: Stingray Z51 - 184 mph Base GT500 - 180 mph Advantage Stingray Z51 (Stingray w/o Z51 is 194)

I’m not seeing “crushed and humiliated” here. I’m seeing GT500 is 0.5s better in the 1/4 mile and probably better from a roll, though nobody has tested that yet. Stingray Z51 is the same 0.5s better 0 - 60 and 4 mph better at top speed. 14 mph if you get the base - base car. I’m seeing two cars that are both freakishly good performers, each better than the other at something, but not everything.
 
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How many cars will sell at 60k? Not many. The price point of these cars will be nearly the same. The GT500 is clearly the performance winner.

But the C8 Z06 will come out and of will kill the GT500. But the cost will be 100k+. ZL1 150k+

Why are people not comparing the Mustang to the Camaro anymore? Pretty awesome that Ford has upped the game far enough to be compared to Chevys top offering.
Mustang competes against Camaro. No doubt about that. But there should also be little doubt that Shelby has always competed against Corvette. The first Shelby GT350 was created because Ford got sick and tired of Corvette dominating SCCA and worked with Carrol Shelby to create a car that could compete with Corvette.
 

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You could look at it that way. Ill put my R against a base C8 on a road course any day. But drag racing is not the purpose of a GT350
Thing is, the base C8 isn’t Corvette’s “track car” by any stretch of the imagination. No more than GT350 is supposed to be a drag car. Stingray wasn’t the track car for C7 and it won’t be for C8. The fact that the C8 Stingray came close to the C7 Z06 on one track is testament to how good the C8 is at something it isn’t even supposed to be good at. The C8 Grand Sport and Z06 will be the track stars, not Stingray.
 

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Thing is, the base C8 isn’t Corvette’s “track car” by any stretch of the imagination. No more than GT350 is supposed to be a drag car. Stingray wasn’t the track car for C7 and it won’t be for C8. The fact that the C8 Stingray came close to the C7 Z06 on one track is testament to how good the C8 is at something it isn’t even supposed to be good at. The C8 Grand Sport and Z06 will be the track stars, not Stingray.
The Z51 C8 is a mid engine 2 seat sports car It may not be the ultimate track verision , but being what it is it does not get the excuse of claiming its not a "track car".
 

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The Z51 C8 is a mid engine 2 seat sports car It may not be the ultimate track verision , but being what it is it does not get the excuse of claiming its not a "track car".
I did not say “it is not a track car” in the same vein as a certain company saying GT PP2 “is not intended for track”. I said it is not Corvette’s track car. ANY Corvette or V8 6th Gen Camaro (including my convertible) is track capable and warrantied for track use. But when Chevrolet tunes Corvettes for the track, the focus is on Grand Sport and Z06, as well as any Camaro with 1LE trim (including 4 and 6 cylinders). There is track capable (my car, C8 Stingray) and track purposed (any 1LE, any ZL1, Grand Sport, and Z06).
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