C8 just got crushed and humiliated by the GT500

[9secondko]

The GT500 was anticipated to hurt some feelings. And boy, does it.

The C8 was so hyped that a deluge of trolls appeared on M6G and flooded the forum.

but the GT500 didn’t need defending. All that had to happen was for the lion to come out of its cage. I don’t know about demons, but venom definitely kills Redeyes and Curbstomps C8s. And lions apparently kill off trolls...

10.6! 133 mph!

one youtuber got 3.3 0-60 on a regular street with stock tires and no prepping the road, which looked like a service road near an off ramp. That’s astounding.

Bone stock? This thing is simply amazing.

can’t wait for official track times.

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[DekiDoo]

Low 11s is what it mostly ran with a few hero runs in the 10s. In good DA it will definitely run a 10, but to say it crushed and humiliated the c8 is asinine. It ran a half a second quicker with 265hp more. Let's stand by for the heads up on track tests, because as of right now, majority of the runs the GT500 put up were 11.2 to 11.4, on a prepped track. The c8 ran faster than that on the road.

 

[9secondko]

Low 11s is what it mostly ran with a few hero runs in the 10s. In good DA it will definitely run a 10, but to say it crushed and humiliated the c8 is asinine. It ran a half a second quicker with 265hp more. Let's stand by for the heads up on track tests, because as of right now, majority of the runs the GT500 put up were 11.2 to 11.4, on a prepped track. The c8 ran faster than that on the road.

LOL

The facts are the C8 does the 1320 in low 11s at its best. The GT500 does it in 10.6.

The mid engine, super lightweight, 2 seat only sports car pinnacle of GM engineering was Demolished. By a four seat platform Mustang. Going to get worse on the track.

 

[DekiDoo]

LOL

The facts are the C8 does the 1320 in low 11s at its best. The GT500 does it in 10.6.

The mid engine, super lightweight, 2 seat only sports car pinnacle of GM engineering was Demolished. By a four seat platform Mustang. Going to get worse on the track.

Facts are the C8 never ran on a prepped surface, and still ran better times than 14 separate GT500s at the track. We will see what happens at the track when the top of the line GT500 goes against the base Corvette.

 

[9secondko]

Facts are the C8 never ran on a prepped surface, and still ran better times than 14 separate GT500s at the track. We will see what happens at the track when the top of the line GT500 goes against the base Corvette.

Facts are GMs controls the conditions of its cars far more than Ford does and relies on its favored press outlets to do initial reporting and tone-setting. When that doesn't work, hey... simulations. As far as track prep, you know that everyone doesn't talk up the track prep. They drive. GM is putting their best foot forward. And it's not as good as the Mustang. Just facts. When youtubers are running 10.7-10.8s in horrible DA and limited runs, you are onto something. The 10.6 that it also ran in Florida is insane.

Ford didn't even toot its own horn. It was allowing tons of people who can hardly be called drivers to find out for themselves and tell the world about it. apparently, they have been blown away.

You can complain about the number of GT500s (which is absolutely necessary to allow everyone time to drive), but that's ok. We will take the Best one of the C8s runs with the best of the GT500. The disparity is quite large. And this despite the platform, the weight, and the front engine versus mid engine layout advantages of the C8.

The fact it ran just amazingly stellar times with those parameters and at the DA it was fighting against is only another feather in its cap. the fact that in doing so, it crushed the C8 ringer cars' hopes and dreams just means that feather is quite noticeable.

And yes we will see what happens at the track when even the base GT500 goes against the top of the line C8. But then again when the top of the line 500 goes against the absolute top of the line C8 shortly.

Great job Team Mustang.

 

[gixxersixxerman]

The 10.6 was in Florida not here in Vegas. We definitely have different meanings of “crushed” 11.1 for the C8 vs 10.8 and many... many mid 11’s isn’t really crushed... of course when the Z06 comes out I’m sure you’ll be back to “you can’t compare a mustang to a Vette”

 

[9secondko]

The 10.6 was in Florida not here in Vegas. We definitely have different meanings of “crushed” 11.1 for the C8 vs 10.8 and many... many mid 11’s isn’t really crushed... of course when the Z06 comes out I’m sure you’ll be back to “you can’t compare a mustang to a Vette”

I said it was in Florida. didn't need repeating.

It doesn't matter where it was. it runs what it runs.

We don't talk about where the C8 (or any other car) runs its times.

You can point out the wheelspin times from amateur drivers all day - that goes for any car. The sample size of drivers was large and of the keyboard warrior variety. No matter how much you try to discount based on driver skill, the fact remains the Gt500 itself is a mid ten car and the C8 is a low 11 car.

The 500 whooped the best anything GM has to offer - even a car that is supposed to be a category above - and now with the holy grail mid engine layout no less. And it's just getting started.

 

[gixxersixxerman]

I said it was in Florida. didn't need repeating.

It doesn't matter where it was. it runs what it runs.

We don't talk about where the C8 (or any other car) runs its times.

You can point out the wheelspin times form amateur drivers all day - that goes for any car. The sample size of drivers was large and of the keyboard warrior variety.

The 500 whooped the best anything GM has to offer - even a car that is supposed to be a category above - and now with the holy grail mid engine layout no less. And it's just getting started.

it is just getting started, both trims of the GT500 were tested the GS, Z06, and ZR1 haven’t even released yet. The GT500 is beating a base 65k car with a Z51 package on a clean pavement “track” by 2-3 tenths and the GT500 was at a NHRA drag strip. The fact is, when the faster models come out you’ll be back to singing the can’t compare it to a Vette song again. Same guys that compare a 65k GT350R to a 40k camaro SS 1LE. The GT500 is great. But “crushed” is not even close to the right word lol.. but what ever you have to tell yourself. It’s always fun watching the fanbois on each side.

 

[9secondko]

it is just getting started, both trims of the GT500 were tested the GS, Z06, and ZR1 haven’t even released yet. The GT500 is beating a base 65k car with a Z51 package on a clean pavement “track” by 2-3 tenths and the GT500 was at a NHRA drag strip. The fact is, when the faster models come out you’ll be back to singing the can’t compare it to a Vette song again. Same guys that compare a 65k GT350R to a 40k camaro SS 1LE. The GT500 is great. But “crushed” is not even close to the right word lol.. but what ever you have to tell yourself. It’s always fun watching the fanbois on each side.

Neither has the KR been released yet.

But the Z51 HAS. So both trims of the Corvette have been tested as well.

We aren't talking unreleased cars.

We are talking cars that have been announced and tested.

And the mustang is the top dog... horse, whatever. and half a second isn't 2-3 tenths no matter how hard you try or try to dismiss DA.

And I am still saying the cards shouldn't be compared.

but your crew was the one who started that whole thing. so you'll have to deal when you lose the fight you started.

Back to comparing the ZL1 and Hellcat is the way it should be.

When the heavyweight champ picks on the cruiserweight champ, it's just bullying.

When a lower category car comes up and knocks out the heavyweight champ, it's something to write about though. Everyone knows that. This is an underdog story with a happy ending.

 

[ALUSA]

So let me get this straight here. A base $59,995 corvette c8 is faster than a $74,000 base GT500 in 0-60 mph on prepped surface and on public roads, the $65,000 Z51 version C8 is faster than again a $74,000 base GT500 up to 0-60 mph by a lot (2.8 vs 3.3 s) and around a road coarse. It also puts down 11.1 seconds quarter mile on non prepped surface versus 11.0 seconds GT500 on non prepped surface. A $95,000 GT500 is most likely faster than a C8 Z51 on a road coarse with longer straights.

With 265 more HP the GT500 is only couple of 10ths quicker than a C8 in the quarter mile. A possible $90,000 upcoming base ZO6 version of C8 will decimate the most expensive version of the GT500 in every performance metric. Even the 1lt base trim C8 has better interior than the premium GT500. So based on quarter mile times and the road coarse performance of the $95,000 GT500, you are assuming the C8 is crushed? I m confused here. I think the C8 demolished the competition with its performance and price point. Its not even close.

I can’t find any car on this planet, brand new, that can put down 2.8 seconds to 60 mph, 11.1 seconds quarter mile time on a non prepped surface with stock tires, and run faster lap times for less than a $65,000 mid engine corvette. I can’t find it. I really can’t. That is why the new C8 is the performance bargain of the century. It will even get more ugly when we start comparing actual sale prices of these two cars in a year or two.

 

[Hack]

Low 11s is what it mostly ran with a few hero runs in the 10s. In good DA it will definitely run a 10, but to say it crushed and humiliated the c8 is asinine. It ran a half a second quicker with 265hp more. Let's stand by for the heads up on track tests, because as of right now, majority of the runs the GT500 put up were 11.2 to 11.4, on a prepped track. The c8 ran faster than that on the road.

Negative against Ford in this post. Just for the record.

Facts are the C8 never ran on a prepped surface, and still ran better times than 14 separate GT500s at the track. We will see what happens at the track when the top of the line GT500 goes against the base Corvette.

Still propping up Chevy and talking down Ford. Huh. Surprise, surprise.

Yes the Mustang completely crushed and humiliated the C8. The C8 isn't even released yet and Ford's rental car already beat it. Sucks to be a Chevy fan.

 

[DekiDoo]

Negative against Ford in this post. Just for the record.



Still propping up Chevy and talking down Ford. Huh. Surprise, surprise.

Yes the Mustang completely crushed and humiliated the C8. The C8 isn't even released yet and Ford's rental car already beat it. Sucks to be a Chevy fan.

I stated facts. Facts hurt your feelings. Sucks to be you.

 

[4V Mayhem]

I would like to discuss this in a mature manner.

I don't think the C8 got "crushed" or "humiliated". The C8 ran an extremely great time and has performed extremely well. And it can be had at a great price anywhere. The GT500 has managed to run a faster quarter mile in specific conditions. Those conditions were different from the conditions in which the C8 ran. The difference is enough to make it unfair to compare the GT500's 10.6 run to the Vette's 11.1 run. If the Vette was run in those same conditions, then what would the time difference have been? Nobody right now can answer that. With that being the case we can only compare 1/4 mile times where the conditions were the same. In those conditions the GT500 ran between 11.3 and 11 flat to the Vette running 11.1. So at this point in the same conditions they have the same MPH. The GT500's higher MPH would mean that it has a higher potential. I doubt the C8 will do 10.6 in the same conditions that the GT500 did it in. It just does not have the HP to go that fast stock. I think it can break into the 10.9s. A high 10.9 but 10s regardless. That is nothing to be humiliated about when compared to a car with over 50% more HP and that costs more. In fact it could be argued that the C8 is slugging it out with the giant. But the fact remains that the GT500 has more potential. WIth DRs or slicks the GT500 will be significantly faster. Around certain tracks the GT500 will win. Around other tracks the GT500 will keep up remarkably well if not win. But all along the Vette will be like the scrappy fighter who you just can't knock out and who keeps getting up and every now and then catching you with some stingers. You might win the fight, but it is going to be a long fight you will know that you were in a fight.

Neither car is anything to take for granted. Underestimate either of these beasts and you will learn a valuable and embarrassing lesson. The ZL1 and Z06 will have to stay on their toes around a track when the GT500 is present. Slip up and the GT500 will slide by. That is if it doesn't win altogether. The GT500 will have to be at it's best in the quarter mile if the C8 is present. Muck up the launch and the C8 is going to edge it out by a slight few ticks. Same thing against Dodge.

The game is going to be close. VERY close. CLoser than what we all think. Every fan boy is going to be shocked. Each car is representing a specific segment of the performance market. The GT500 Base and CF are representing what Ford can do when they take their time and do their homework and don't cut corners. It will be an all around car that when it's focus is directed towards something specific it should be tough to beat. Aim it at the quarter mile and it is going to murder. Aim it at a track and it is going to murder. Or keep it as an all around vehicle and it will keep the competition on their toes. GM is showing what they can do in a segment that is new to them. They are coming out swinging. And the best is yet to come. For now you get a car that is going to put it's all into everything. If it loses at anything, it will still be annoyingly right there. It represents price, performance, value, and availability. It is a scalpel that might not be completely sharp but sharp enough to make a clean cut. It will please the Euro guys who want Lambo stuff but also the purists who want American Muscle. The ZL1 represent every category at a cheaper price than the others. It is hard to argue the value when they can be had at such discounts that we've been seeing lately. While it might not dominate in any segment, it will be close to 1st place in more places than any of the others. The Dodge guys are just flat out sluggers. They couldn't care less about going around any track. They represent people who want to go fast in a straight line and get to the end before anyone else. They represent what a car can do when the focus is on one thing and one thing only. The car is big, comfortable, roomy, and fast. They are like the old boxer who hits like a tank and doesn't bother to duck or avoid any punches.

Basically there is something for everyone in enough variety and supply to satisfy everyone's needs. Not one of these cars are going to get crushed or embarrassed. Plus these are not $30,000 or $40,000 vehicles. These are cars that have a $65,000 minimum entry fee. Those who are shopping know what they want and which car will give them what they want at the price they think is reasonable. If a Hellcat owner loses to a GT500 owner on a long stretch of road, he is not going to be embarrassed. If a GT500 owner loses to a ZLE owner while canyon carving then he is not going to be embarrassed. If a C8 owner gets walked on a highway from a 60 MPH roll then he is not going to be embarrassed. That type of attitude is not present among those who are fortunate enough to buy these cars. That is SS and GT and R/T mentality. The guys who have these higher level cars are all buying what suits them specifically. And I doubt any test or review is going to change their mind or purchase choice. Thank you!

(Applause)!!

 

[bluebeastsrt]

I'm kinda diggin what ya did with the title of this. Sometimes you gotta troll the trolls.

 

[9secondko]

I'm kinda diggin what ya did with the title of this. Sometimes you gotta troll the trolls.

A bit funny to see the butthurt. Hilarious actually. When they were drooling over the gt350 headline where the roles were reversed.

then the gt500 showed what it can do... and the headline wrote itself.

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