2020 GT500 Unscheduled- Material Hold

[1stMustang-GT500]

This is what I'm getting at; once the VOC is created and DORA is obtained, most vehicles go straight to Unscheduled-Clean.
V00D00 is proof of this, his order status timeline matches 99% of vehicles built by Ford, and has no current holds if at the Clean step.

We have a unique case for GT500 as most orders are going to material hold first, a hold generally placed by the assembly plant. This is why I am trying to figure out if the hold is due to a specific build.

Despite the build not occurring until early Sept, we should be seeing Unscheduled-Clean if we are simply awaiting a scheduling action to take place.

Additionally, I cannot publicly post information from the vehicle visibility system without breaching the company's trust...not worth disciplinary action...

I assume you are at the plant in 1 fashionnor another. Do you have any other insights on the internal communication of expectations for weekly through put off the line?

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[V00D00]

So it's status was Material-Hold for 22 days before it went to unscheduled-clean on July 24? Going from Clean to VIN in one day is just good luck.
My 2013 was listed as Unscheduled-Clean on Aug 17, 2012 and changed to Scheduled to Week on Nov 1, 2012
Thanks for clarifying.

I think he means order was placed July 2nd (VOC submitted to bank), DORA generated, and then unscheduled-clean roughly the next day or so, is that right V00D00?

EDIT: I've confirmed that V00D00's vehicle was 'Unscheduled- Clean' on July 2nd, and 'Scheduled to Week' on July 24th. No material hold was ever applied to this order, even momentarily.
Additionally, Priority Code seems to have been changed from 019 to 001 on July 17th.


Here is my thought process, based on my familiarity with the vehicle visibility reporting and plant processing:
Within the first few hours of the order bank opening, maybe the holds were not applied, and therefore orders went immediately to Unscheduled-Clean. Upon realizing what was happening, the hold (that maybe was meant to be applied at bank opening) was applied to (all*) future orders.
If there was supposed to be a hold, but it was missed originally, there is a chance another hold could be applied, despite already being scheduled.
Once already scheduled, a Delay - XXX (multiple kinds) status could be applied, or a Scheduled- Manufacturing Hold may be applied.
Note a Scheduled- MFG hold can be for a number of reasons (material, labor, tooling/facilities, etc), and if a hold of any kind were to be applied to V00D00's vehicle after it was scheduled, I'd wager it'd be MFG vs any other kind.
However, I hope this isn't the case, and that you have no further holds, and I hope you get your car sooner rather than later!
I could be reading into it too much, and the vehicle really is scheduled as it states (MP2/Job 1 beginning in Sept).


Do we know how many members show Unscheduled- Clean vs Unscheduled- Material Hold?


*All future orders, or specific builds, that's what I am trying to get to the bottom of.

Basically that. I cant confirm dates of anything actually applying, only what my guy sent me, and i tried not to bother him since i know he'd do right by me and send updates as he got them

Thank you Bane, i dont really know what youre saying, but it looks accurate to me. Im quite shocked, I have only seen 1 person claim to have an earlier build week, and thats FB, which, I dont trust anything anyway. I figured employees/VIP's would get the 1st months of builds, so Im very ecited. Especially if I have it lat October/early November, and we can put the car through its paces.

Ive already got the drag wheels ordered and tuners on standby

 

[Snoopy49]

I think he means order was placed July 2nd (VOC submitted to bank), DORA generated, and then unscheduled-clean roughly the next day or so, is that right V00D00?

EDIT: I've confirmed that V00D00's vehicle was 'Unscheduled- Clean' on July 2nd, and 'Scheduled to Week' on July 24th. No material hold was ever applied to this order, even momentarily.
Additionally, Priority Code seems to have been changed from 019 to 001 on July 17th.
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If the order was placed on July 2, 2019 and his dealer contacted him on July 20 and told him that his order was confirmed "Unscheduled-Clean" and on July 25 the dealer confirmed that it had been scheduled and assigned a VIN. What was his status between July 2 & July 20?

 

[Angelsbane72]

If the order was placed on July 2, 2019 and his dealer contacted him on July 20 and told him that his order was confirmed "Unscheduled-Clean" and on July 25 the dealer confirmed that it had been scheduled and assigned a VIN. What was his status between July 2 & July 20?

His order was placed July 2nd, where it showed Unscheduled-Clean. It remained unscheduled clean until July 24tth, the day it changed to Scheduled to Week.
The order never had any form of hold.

Not sure why the dealer didn't tell earlier it was Uncheduled-Clean; not that it matters, as it just means order is a build type accepted by plant and is capable of being built.

 

[Angelsbane72]

I assume you are at the plant in 1 fashionnor another. Do you have any other insights on the internal communication of expectations for weekly through put off the line?

Not plant based, I am an engineer in vehicle operations.
I cannot comment on throughput at FRAP or other assembly plants; and take comments as opinions of my own accord, not speaking on behalf of FoMoCo

 

[1stMustang-GT500]

Not plant based, I am an engineer in vehicle operations.
I cannot comment on throughput at FRAP or other assembly plants; and take comments as opinions of my own accord, not speaking on behalf of FoMoCo

Is that a quote from the media response email that Ford sent to all employees?

 

[Angelsbane72]

Is that a quote from the media response email that Ford sent to all employees?

Similar, I paraphrased lol

 

[Snoopy49]

His order was placed July 2nd, where it showed Unscheduled-Clean. It remained unscheduled clean until July 24tth, the day it changed to Scheduled to Week.
The order never had any form of hold.

Not sure why the dealer didn't tell earlier it was Uncheduled-Clean; not that it matters, as it just means order is a build type accepted by plant and is capable of being built.

Can you post the VVR or other proof?

 

[Angelsbane72]

Can you post the VVR or other proof?

I cannot post the VVR/ internal vehicle tracking tools, as the information contained is confidential to FoMoCo.
However, there's nothing stopping V00D00 (or anyone, you included...) from going to/calling the dealership, having them look up the order in VVR, and himself confirming (via printout if needed) what I've reported...

Not sure what proof/info you are looking for, but you can PM if you like.

 

[Snoopy49]

Basically that. I cant confirm dates of anything actually applying, only what my guy sent me, and i tried not to bother him since i know he'd do right by me and send updates as he got them

Thank you Bane, i dont really know what youre saying, but it looks accurate to me. Im quite shocked, I have only seen 1 person claim to have an earlier build week, and thats FB, which, I dont trust anything anyway. I figured employees/VIP's would get the 1st months of builds, so Im very ecited. Especially if I have it lat October/early November, and we can put the car through its paces.

I've already got the drag wheels ordered and tuners on standby

Can you ask your dealer for the Vehicle Visibility report (VVR) and post a copy here, this would go a long ways to clearing this up?

 

[Angelsbane72]

Can you ask your dealer for the Vehicle Visibility report (VVR) and post a copy here, this would go a long ways to clearing this up?

It's quite clear he has never had a hold, what isn't clear is why he never had a hold (despite sharing identical priority).
And that question was the entire reason for starting this thread.

EDIT: proof enough?

 

[V00D00]

Can you ask your dealer for the Vehicle Visibility report (VVR) and post a copy here, this would go a long ways to clearing this up?

Yea, no. Im not going to bother them again, but ill post whatever he has sent me along the way.

What I do know is we applied pressure to get priority moved, so that I could potentially have one by october 15th, my last event of the year, which, if youve been following, draws all sorts of exotic and unique cars for the 500 to go against.
https://www.facebook.com/SlipStreamRE/

Additionally, since no GT500 track tour is scheduled, im working on a Ford Only trackday at Pocono Raceway, roll racing and the S/E roadcourse option. So i feel the zone rep saw the value in that, as well as im very good friends with large youtube/instagram influencers

But, back to documents

 

[Snoopy49]

lt looks like we were all wrong.
It looks like material-hold is shown on the VVR until Unscheduled-Clean appears, material-hold is replaced by Unscheduled-Clean. At that time Unscheduled-Clean uses the order date as the Status Date/Time. This is the problem.

In other words, Unscheduled-Clean date does not correctly represent the actual date that the order went clean, it represents the original order date.

If I am correct, when my order goes Unscheduled-Clean, the only thing that will change is the addition of Unscheduled-Clean and the removal of the material-hold. The Secondary Status, the Status Date/Time will stay the same as the original order date.

Here is a copy of my original History showing the status on the day I ordered my 2020 GT500 on July 2, 2019, not the actual date that the order went Unscheduled-Clean.

 

[Snoopy49]

It's quite clear he has never had a hold, what isn't clear is why he never had a hold (despite sharing identical priority).
And that question was the entire reason for starting this thread.

EDIT: proof enough?

No. the document you showed was completely worthless.

 

[Snoopy49]

Yea, no. Im not going to bother them again, but ill post whatever he has sent me along the way.

What I do know is we applied pressure to get priority moved, so that I could potentially have one by october 15th, my last event of the year, which, if youve been following, draws all sorts of exotic and unique cars for the 500 to go against.
https://www.facebook.com/SlipStreamRE/

Additionally, since no GT500 track tour is scheduled, im working on a Ford Only trackday at Pocono Raceway, roll racing and the S/E roadcourse option. So i feel the zone rep saw the value in that, as well as im very good friends with large youtube/instagram influencers

But, back to documents

Is this a copy of your original order showing the July 2, 2019 order date?

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