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So what do you guys think of these two great cars based on what is known now?As for the front end on the 2013 GT500 looks better than the new one.I dont like that black bumper crap.It makes it look like a fiat dodge or some dam ricer car.The new tech. in the 2020 GT500 is great!Its too dam heavy but i am sure it will destroy the zl1,1le on the track. I prefer the 6speed manual!As far as modding goes between the 2013,and 2020,should be interesting.If i were to bet ,i think you will see more power and torque from the 2013 over the 2020.What do you guys think!:like:





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My only comment would be is I absolutely love the looks of the new 2020 Shelby GT500. But having said that and living here in Omaha I will say that the front grille is a "Midwesterners Nightmare". Why??? Anyone that lives in the midwest after a nice sunday afternoon drive in the late summer or early fall will be spending an hour in his garage (after the drive) picking BUGS out of that grille. LOL I always wash my cars by hand and fully will need a gross of very soft toothbrushes. LOL again.
 

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So what do you guys think of these two great cars based on what is known now?As for the front end on the 2013 GT500 looks better than the new one.I dont like that black bumper crap.It makes it look like a fiat dodge or some dam ricer car.The new tech. in the 2020 GT500 is great!Its too dam heavy but i am sure it will destroy the zl1,1le on the track. I prefer the 6speed manual!As far as modding goes between the 2013,and 2020,should be interesting.If i were to bet ,i think you will see more power and torque from the 2013 over the 2020.What do you guys think!:like:
A better question is how much will the CFTP weigh? So far, Ford has not published that number. That is the number (not the full on weight that everyone is harping on) that will count for track purposes. You'd probably be looking at a 150# weight reduction and it will be able to be brought down to 3800 to 3900# without too much effort.

For those that are going to the drag strip, the base can be lightened with forged wheels on top of all the other weight reduction methods.

For all around street driving, who really gives a damn.

6 speed manual... LOL, there is a very good reason that Ford went with a heavier DCT. Many of the cars that are >4100# (that people are comparing to the 500 now) do not have a DCT. Had Ford gone with a 6 speed, they could have saved considerable weight, but at what cost? Performance. There is no way a 6 speed version would be as effective in putting the power to the pavement. That can not be argued.
 

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I own a 2014 myself, and love the looks and what I have done mod wise. It is just a straight line beast my Kenne Bell 3.6 ontop of that engine. But the 2020 to me looks even better, the DCT is the game changer here. A lot is gained by using only that vs a 6 speed. Modding this 5.2 it will like, a lot. Expect big gains overall vs reasonable costs.
 

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I own a 2014 myself, and love the looks and what I have done mod wise. It is just a straight line beast my Kenne Bell 3.6 ontop of that engine. But the 2020 to me looks even better, the DCT is the game changer here. A lot is gained by using only that vs a 6 speed. Modding this 5.2 it will like, a lot. Expect big gains overall vs reasonable costs.
If you dont mind me asking whats you HP on the 2014, and you best 1/4 mile time?
 
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A better question is how much will the CFTP weigh? So far, Ford has not published that number. That is the number (not the full on weight that everyone is harping on) that will count for track purposes. You'd probably be looking at a 150# weight reduction and it will be able to be brought down to 3800 to 3900# without too much effort.

For those that are going to the drag strip, the base can be lightened with forged wheels on top of all the other weight reduction methods.

For all around street driving, who really gives a damn.

6 speed manual... LOL, there is a very good reason that Ford went with a heavier DCT. Many of the cars that are >4100# (that people are comparing to the 500 now) do not have a DCT. Had Ford gone with a 6 speed, they could have saved considerable weight, but at what cost? Performance. There is no way a 6 speed version would be as effective in putting the power to the pavement. That can not be argued.
I don't have an issue with the DCT,I would just prefer the manual. The A10 is quicker than the stick, but there are still plenty of Mustangs that are being bought that are sticks.
 

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If you dont mind me asking whats you HP on the 2014, and you best 1/4 mile time?
I had my old 2.8 Kenne Bell setup on the dyno(738whp) but never this 3.6. I run a 100 octane tune (93/VP Mix) with a 3.12" upper roughly 22psi. Also this is my show car, I have never ran it at a track especially being a convertible. I built it for street fun and car shows. But if you compare a Super Snake with the 850hp package (730-750whp) they ran 10.66 in the 1/4. If I let a pro drag driver take her out, I be a betting man the car does 10.3ish.
 

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I own a 2014 myself, and love the looks and what I have done mod wise. It is just a straight line beast my Kenne Bell 3.6 ontop of that engine. But the 2020 to me looks even better, the DCT is the game changer here. A lot is gained by using only that vs a 6 speed. Modding this 5.2 it will like, a lot. Expect big gains overall vs reasonable costs.
I agree with mot of that, except cost of modding, the 1st few basic bolt ons are going to net phenomenal gains & performance to match. BUT, once you cross the DCT threshold yes, its going to be a challenge to mod efficiently and over most peoples budgets
 

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So what do you guys think of these two great cars based on what is known now?As for the front end on the 2013 GT500 looks better than the new one.I dont like that black bumper crap.It makes it look like a fiat dodge or some dam ricer car.The new tech. in the 2020 GT500 is great!Its too dam heavy but i am sure it will destroy the zl1,1le on the track. I prefer the 6speed manual!As far as modding goes between the 2013,and 2020,should be interesting.If i were to bet ,i think you will see more power and torque from the 2013 over the 2020.What do you guys think!:like:
Trying to compare a 2013/2014 GT500 to the upcoming 2020 GT500 from a performance standpoint is almost impossible at this point since we have no confirmed data for the 2020 GT500 and in particular the GT500 coming with the 2 seat CFTP option.

Having said that and without any confirmed data I will suggest that the new 2020 GT500 will clearly be much faster than a 2013/2014 GT500 when it comes to all performance aspects including handling, braking, steering and acceleration.

The 0 to 60 times may not be all that much different between the two cars but the quarter mile times and the track times will be significantly different between them.

I could be wrong but did the 2013/2014 cars not come with 3.31 gears whereas the 2020 cars come with 3.73 gears therefore the higher gear ratio on the new car will help it offset its gained weight and of course the extra HP and torque will take care of a great deal of that as well.

The tires on the new GT500 model are much superior and larger than the 2013/2014 cars and of course the CF wheels and wing on the CFTP car will be a tremendous help in many areas for the new car.

Lateral G's will not even be close and of course the 2013/2014 cars had live axles whereas the 2020 GT500 has an independent rear end.

Certainly with no disrespect to the 2013/2014 GT500's but they are not in the same league as the 2020 GT500 and especially if one of these cars is equipped with the CFTP option and so it should be since it has been 6 MY's that Ford has had to develope and improve this model of Mustang over the last GT500 generation.

From a styling standpoint beauty is in the eye of the beholder and based on my time short time with a Twister Orange car I prefer the looks of the 2020 GT500.

With respect to the 6 speed only transmission back in 2013/2014 I have to agree with you that I would have much preferred a manual transmission option for the new GT500 but must say that the new 7 speed DCT will be much superior to the old 6 speed when it comes to a road course or drag strip situation.

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Trying to compare a 2013/2014 GT500 to the upcoming 2020 GT500 from a performance standpoint is almost impossible at this point since we have no confirmed data for the 2020 GT500 and in particular the GT500 coming with the 2 seat CFTP option.

Having said that and without any confirmed data I will suggest that the new 2020 GT500 will clearly be much faster than a 2013/2014 GT500 when it comes to all performance aspects including handling, braking, steering and acceleration.

The 0 to 60 times may not be all that much different between the two cars but the quarter mile times and the track times will be significantly different between them.

I could be wrong but did the 2013/2014 cars not come with 3.31 gears whereas the 2020 cars come with 3.73 gears therefore the higher gear ratio on the new car will help it offset its gained weight and of course the extra HP and torque will take care of a great deal of that as well.

The tires on the new GT500 model are much superior and larger than the 2013/2014 cars and of course the CF wheels and wing on the CFTP car will be a tremendous help in many areas for the new car.

Lateral G's will not even be close and of course the 2013/2014 cars had live axles whereas the 2020 GT500 has an independent rear end.

Certainly with no disrespect to the 2013/2014 GT500's but they are not in the same league as the 2020 GT500 and especially if one of these cars is equipped with the CFTP option and so it should be since it has been 6 MY's that Ford has had to develope and improve this model of Mustang over the last GT500 generation.

From a styling standpoint beauty is in the eye of the beholder and based on my time short time with a Twister Orange car I prefer the looks of the 2020 GT500.

With respect to the 6 speed only transmission back in 2013/2014 I have to agree with you that I would have much preferred a manual transmission option for the new GT500 but must say that the new 7 speed DCT will be much superior to the old 6 speed when it comes to a road course or drag strip situation.

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Agreed not a fair comparison the 2020 will be superior in every aspect, this isn’t even close.

I love the looks, I think they nailed it, the biggest obstacle at this point will be the price compared to the competition.
 

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A better question is how much will the CFTP weigh? So far, Ford has not published that number. That is the number (not the full on weight that everyone is harping on) that will count for track purposes. You'd probably be looking at a 150# weight reduction and it will be able to be brought down to 3800 to 3900# without too much effort.

For those that are going to the drag strip, the base can be lightened with forged wheels on top of all the other weight reduction methods.

For all around street driving, who really gives a damn.

6 speed manual... LOL, there is a very good reason that Ford went with a heavier DCT. Many of the cars that are >4100# (that people are comparing to the 500 now) do not have a DCT. Had Ford gone with a 6 speed, they could have saved considerable weight, but at what cost? Performance. There is no way a 6 speed version would be as effective in putting the power to the pavement. That can not be argued.
Just saying .
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So what do you guys think of these two great cars based on what is known now?As for the front end on the 2013 GT500 looks better than the new one.I dont like that black bumper crap.It makes it look like a fiat dodge or some dam ricer car.The new tech. in the 2020 GT500 is great!Its too dam heavy but i am sure it will destroy the zl1,1le on the track. I prefer the 6speed manual!As far as modding goes between the 2013,and 2020,should be interesting.If i were to bet ,i think you will see more power and torque from the 2013 over the 2020.What do you guys think!:like:
You’ll see more power from the 5.2. Everything is much better than the old gen trinity. Everything except cubes. But it is the fast better breather. Already it makes more power with less boost. That bodes well.
 
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Let me say this discussion is not about the 2013 GT500 being better than the 2020 GT500 its just about what people like and dislike about the two and guesses on with both being modded who would come out on top as far as power goes:like:
 

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