Newbie questions about tuning and the tuning process.

[Draklia]

Wow that is exactly what Lund is doing to me me. Unfinished answers, no answers, screaming Datalog for every question lol.
Anybody try PBD or are they the same?
Thx.

They are all the same. I wanted to give AED a try, but the guy wanted to sell me parts because he won’t tune with the same brand the other tuners can tune with. I got a bad vibe talking to that guy off the bat.

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[Turian]

Any idea what's going on here with the downshift? Tuner is currently trying to figure it out. Log and video sent as requested.

Also, that's when it just barley does the weird flux. Sometimes it's bonkers when I down shift, and I can't let the clutch back out or the car tries to buck and stall.

 

[Daryl333]

I do want dialogue. I'm chill. A simple misunderstanding.

BTW, you can turn off rev matching in your menu. But that's on a manual. Are you manual or Automatic?

No I have an Auto. When I pull up to a stop the rev match comes in very late and at an rpm way higher than when I shifted. Embarrassingly high and loud. Lol
I like people looking at at my car but not for doing obnoxious stuff when coming to a light. Lol So when I asked Lund if the option could be deleted they wanted a Datalog. I got their point that they maybe thought I wanted it fixed, but I am done with it now and want to try someone else's tune. I guess that's the thing with having to email... Conversations get misconstrued and patience tends to wear thin. I don't like to get excited about stuff,I would rather avoid confrontation with a tuner 3,000 miles away when I'm not getting anywhere with my questions. So no not bashing anyone. That doesn't solve an issue.

 

[Turian]

No I have an Auto. When I pull up to a stop the rev match comes in very late and at an rpm way higher than when I shifted. Embarrassingly high and loud. Lol
I like people looking at at my car but not for doing obnoxious stuff when coming to a light. Lol So when I asked Lund if the option could be deleted they wanted a Datalog. I got their point that they maybe thought I wanted it fixed, but I am done with it now and want to try someone else's tune. I guess that's the thing with having to email... Conversations get misconstrued and patience tends to wear thin. I don't like to get excited about stuff,I would rather avoid confrontation with a tuner 3,000 miles away when I'm not getting anywhere with my questions. So no not bashing anyone. That doesn't solve an issue.

It turns out that my issue was fuel. Not the tune. On 93, with flex fuel tune and the 91-93 tune the cars runs great and smooth. As soon as I put in what we have here, which is e70, flex fuel and e85 run weird and cause downshifting to be crazy. The car is running 15% rich. So that explains that issue. The flex fuel tune is not 100% accurate, so I assume that it's reading higher alcohol % than what is true, even on the flex fuel tune. I guess I just have to find better fuel, or stick with the 91-93 tune. Oh well.

 

[Daryl333]

Well at least you've the glitch man.
Good luck in future endeavors.

 

[AZ18yote]

@Draklia not sure if you were dealing with Shaun or not at AED but my experience with him has been nothing short of stellar. The dude knows his stuff and the service is top notch. And of course the performance of his speaks for itself.

 

[Turian]

Well at least you've the glitch man.
Good luck in future endeavors.

Not so sure now. I found and tested e85. And made sure it tested at e85. Then I filled up. Still having issues with the e85 tune and downshift revmatching. I did a complete log with stationary step revs and two or three pulls and cruising. If they don't find it this time, I'm going back to 93 and just calling it. I'm tired of one short uninformative response a day, and suggestions that don't work with blaming everything but the tune.

 

[Zrussian13]

I've got a manual and noticed when I'm on my flex fuel tune the rev match isn't crisp like it was stock. When I run my straight E tune it gets a lot better. Real smooth at higher RPMs and pretty decent in the lower ones. Last time I ran 91 on my flex tune the rev match felt great again. Made me wonder if it's the advanced timing with ethanol making the rev match feel less than par

 

[Turian]

I've got a manual and noticed when I'm on my flex fuel tune the rev match isn't crisp like it was stock. When I run my straight E tune it gets a lot better. Real smooth at higher RPMs and pretty decent in the lower ones. Last time I ran 91 on my flex tune the rev match felt great again. Made me wonder if it's the advanced timing with ethanol making the rev match feel less than par

That is normal. My issue is the opposite. On the flex fuel tune, it varies, sometimes its fine, other times its crisp. Then on straight E tune, it is running super rich, like 15%. And I tested the E85 TWICE. It's E85. I'll run the tank out of Flex, and then fill back up with E85 testing and taking a picture before I do. Gotta prove to my tuner that the fuel is E85.

 

[Draklia]

@Draklia not sure if you were dealing with Shaun or not at AED but my experience with him has been nothing short of stellar. The dude knows his stuff and the service is top notch. And of course the performance of his speaks for itself.

Yeah it was Shaun.

 

[Kong76]

They are all the same. I wanted to give AED a try, but the guy wanted to sell me parts because he won’t tune with the same brand the other tuners can tune with. I got a bad vibe talking to that guy off the bat.

Can you elaborate on this? I have talked with him and have heard nothing but stellar comments. I am going to have him dyno tune my car this summer.

 

[Zelek]

If flex is so hit or miss on learning sometimes, why aren't there more flex sensors offered on here?

 

[Bluemustang]

No I have an Auto. When I pull up to a stop the rev match comes in very late and at an rpm way higher than when I shifted. Embarrassingly high and loud. Lol
I like people looking at at my car but not for doing obnoxious stuff when coming to a light. Lol So when I asked Lund if the option could be deleted they wanted a Datalog. I got their point that they maybe thought I wanted it fixed, but I am done with it now and want to try someone else's tune. I guess that's the thing with having to email... Conversations get misconstrued and patience tends to wear thin. I don't like to get excited about stuff,I would rather avoid confrontation with a tuner 3,000 miles away when I'm not getting anywhere with my questions. So no not bashing anyone. That doesn't solve an issue.

Just use the manual mode the paddle shifters. That wont happen again. Plus, I don't think Lund would tune that out anyway. They're not changing that many things from the stock programming.

 

[Bluemustang]

If flex is so hit or miss on learning sometimes, why aren't there more flex sensors offered on here?

Probably because the cost doesn't really give the benefits. The flex tune is "close enough" to be a benefit over a 93 tune imo. That's why the E85 tune exists.

 

[Nuked]

If flex is so hit or miss on learning sometimes, why aren't there more flex sensors offered on here?

You would have to install and rewrite the software to read the sensor and use that value for the ethanol content. Could definitely be done, but not sure anyone is interested being that as Blue said the current one works close enough.

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