ZL1 1LE

[pietran30]

This has nothing to do about being a ford or loyal person. I just do not agree of the comparison between a na car and a fi car. I'd feel the same if they compared the gt500 vs 1le or z28.

So you wouldn't compare the viper acr and the corvette Z06?

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[Childs Play]

This new zl1 1LE does nothing for me. For one, this has got to be the dumbest named trim level. Doesn't roll off the tongue smoothly at all. For two, they made something ugly and ridiculous looking even uglier and more ridiculous looking. Who designs these cars? Hot wheels? For three who the hell would pay $65k+ for this thing new when you know you can get one used for 40% off or wait a year and GM will give you 20% off on a new car.

So... Let me know where you're finding those 2017 ZL1s for 40% off. I'll go buy one.

 

[Voodooo]

So you wouldn't compare the viper acr and the corvette Z06?

Not necessarily.

 

[Childs Play]

Poor camaro guys can't take any criticism of there super car

And then he's lost his argument he replies with this pretty much every time. Or some version of "This is a Mustang forum" (See previous post).

Why is that you may ask? Because some people can't hold an intelligent conversation regarding a rivalry just to discuss differences and enjoy their vehicle. They say things like "Look how many 2015 Camaros are for sale" like that even some resemblance of a good argument without even thinking. Without realizing there's also 2015 Mustangs for sale because *GASP* there's no way that a Mustang wouldn't sell in it's model year...

And when EcoVert here gets shown that they're wrong or looking in a mirror? Oh, someone else can't take criticism.

That's not me not being able to take criticism. That's you losing an argument and then firing back with a 5th grade insult. Good job.

 

[EcoVert]

And then he's lost his argument he replies with this pretty much every time. Or some version of "This is a Mustang forum" (See previous post).

Why is that you may ask? Because some people can't hold an intelligent conversation regarding a rivalry just to discuss differences and enjoy their vehicle.

You are so funny keep on diving your nissan and reading your magazines on Mustang and camaro performance figures.

 

[Childs Play]

You are so funny keep on diving your nissan and reading your magazines on Mustang and camaro performance figures.

And further proving my point by posting another un-related argument...

My Nissan is a daily driver. It also has four cylinders, just like your Mustang.

I haven't quoted a single performance figure regarding this car, and in fact have stated multiple times throughout my time on here that performance figures in a magazine aren't really worth much. You wouldn't know that though because you just post the first canned insult you saw someone else say 30 minutes ago and thought was cool to use.

 

[EcoVert]

And further proving my point by posting another un-related argument...

My Nissan is a daily driver. It also has four cylinders, just like your Mustang.

I haven't quoted a single performance figure, but you could probably learn some 6th grade grammar.

Man that hurts, :lol: you always have to have the last word don't you.

 

[Childs Play]

Man that hurts, :lol: you always have to have the last word don't you.

Yep. ;)

So just enjoy your Mustang and I'll enjoy discussing differences between the Camaro and Mustang. I don't do it out of spite or because I don't like the Mustang.

I just enjoy the rivalry and it's fun to discuss the difference of two fun, yet different, go fast machines.

 

[Voodooo]

How many more camaro versions is GM going to make. I mean seriously, they are not even selling many of the models they already offer. They never learned from their mistakes when they needed a bail out. They do the same on all their models, especially the trucks. Stupid.

 

[Strokerswild]

They're more 'rare' that way.

 

[EcoVert]

How many more camaro versions is GM going to make. I mean seriously, they are not even selling many of the models they already offer. They never learned from their mistakes when they needed a bail out. They do the same on all their models, especially the trucks. Stupid.

We lets see the next camaro version should be zle 1lz, or is it 1zle ze1, or maybe 1ltze :lol:

 

[Childs Play]

How many more camaro versions is GM going to make. I mean seriously, they are not even selling many of the models they already offer. They never learned from their mistakes when they needed a bail out. They do the same on all their models, especially the trucks. Stupid.

Hopefully soon, Ford decides to join the HiPo party.

 

[68fbjjz109]

The whispers I have heard from some Ford powerplants being validated by a third party, sounds like the ZL1 won't be an issue. However I am not sure how those numbers stack up against emissions requirements. It's easy to make power. It's not easier to make power and be 50 state legal.

 

[Taneras]

How many more camaro versions is GM going to make. I mean seriously, they are not even selling many of the models they already offer. They never learned from their mistakes when they needed a bail out. They do the same on all their models, especially the trucks. Stupid.

Ford's doing about the same with the Mustang.

SS = GT
SS 1LE = GTPP
ZL1 = GT350
ZL1 1LE = GT350R
Z28 = next halo mustang? (GT500, Mach 1, whatever)

 

[AJ ROJO]

This new zl1 1LE does nothing for me. For one, this has got to be the dumbest named trim level. Doesn't roll off the tongue smoothly at all. For two, they made something ugly and ridiculous looking even uglier and more ridiculous looking. Who designs these cars? Hot wheels? For three who the hell would pay $65k+ for this thing new when you know you can get one used for 40% off or wait a year and GM will give you 20% off on a new car.

I only laugh at the bolded part of this statement because you drive a 2003 Mach 1, which is not a bad looking car by any means; however, I wonder if you have ever seen the 2003 Cobra R? I ask because that thing looks horrible with its table top wing and badly molded and blended aero.

Function over form I guess...

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