Your thoughts on value...engine replacement

[Zitrosounds]

Search “Shelby exotics” on YouTube. He has a bunch of videos following him fighting with ford on it and in one of them he shows where the vin is. He has a few gt350’s And 350r’s and goes into some of the shortcomings of the voodoo motor for a track motor and has gotten to the point where he will be replacing one of them with a coyote or LSx.

No!!! That guy is a scam. Read the comment section. Worst guy to get advice from, shleby exotics lol

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[Zitrosounds]

I would caution you on the same cause you can’t see inside the motor. After seeing many motors out of cars I can tell you first hand that there’s a lot of potential for premature wear due to a very small amount of things left inside from a previous motor, the tech not being meticulous about cleanliness etc. it’s a machine, anytime you pull it apart and put it back together you add a ton of risk of future issues.

WHAT!!!????!!!! You get a long block when engine is replaced, no tearing apart. LOL. If your point had any validity, planes would be falling out of the sky by the 1000's!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

 

[Hack]

WHAT!!!????!!!! You get a long block when engine is replaced, no tearing apart. LOL. If your point had any validity, planes would be falling out of the sky by the 1000's!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

Do you get new engine oil cooler lines? The ones that were replaced under recall on many cars due to a potential leak. I assume they let the oil travel from the engine to the oil cooler and back. Do you get a new oil cooler?

 

[Trackaholic]

I care about performance and reliability numbers, not serial numbers. If the car I buy has an engine that runs well and consumes oil at a reasonable rate, I don't care much about where it came from.

No matter the engine, I'd probably push for some kind of warranty just to have some security and peace of mind (and a recourse in case something did happen).

-T

 

[nastang87xx]

No matter the engine, I'd probably push for some kind of warranty just to have some security and peace of mind (and a recourse in case something did happen).

-T

If a motor has been replaced by a certified Ford dealership and it was procured via Ford Motor Company through the standard warranty and replacement procedure, I believe it automatically gets a 3/36 on it.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Do you get new engine oil cooler lines? The ones that were replaced under recall on many cars due to a potential leak. I assume they let the oil travel from the engine to the oil cooler and back. Do you get a new oil cooler?

You do not but there is the filter.

 

[Tomster]

No!!! That guy is a scam. Read the comment section. Worst guy to get advice from, shleby exotics lol

That guy is an idiot.

 

[Tomster]

Gone are the days when engines, transmissions, diffs and chassis were all tied together and documented on a build sheet. Values of those cars from the 60's and early 70's as we know are very closly tied to that originality.

I am looking at a GT350R that has had an engine replacement, under warranty, by the dealer of origin.

My question for those in the know:

Are these motors tied to the chassis on their build sheets and if so, what do we think the effect on long term value retention is without the 'original engine'.

Thanks!

Andy

Yes, the transmission and engine block are stamped with the partial serial. I wouldn't buy an R with an engine replaced.

 

[svttim]

All relative. If I was buying as a potential collector, I would shy away from a motor replacement on the R. Fortunately, I dont look at the collectivity. I wanna drive the crap out of it. So for me, the answer is I dont care although I may use it to lower the price

 

[Hack]

You do not but there is the filter.

You get my point though. There could be garbage in those lines and the cooler. I'd be surprised if it all comes out very easily. And who knows how thoroughly they get cleaned by the tech replacing the engine?

Bottom line is - even though the entire long block is replaced - there's an opportunity for the new engine to get contaminated with debris from the original (failed) engine.

 

[DCShelby]

They replaced my oil coolant lines too. I see it in the invoice. They did not replace the heat exchanger itself though. As I said, it’s stil under warranty and if it blows up I get another engine. In May I still have four years of power train and engine warranty left. Given the cost to Ford each time an engine is replaced is about 20k, the bean counters have probably told the engineering and production side to fix the problems.

 

[Hack]

They replaced my oil coolant lines too. I see it in the invoice. They did not replace the heat exchanger itself though. As I said, it’s stil under warranty and if it blows up I get another engine. In May I still have four years of power train and engine warranty left. Given the cost to Ford each time an engine is replaced is about 20k, the bean counters have probably told the engineering and production side to fix the problems.

20K is what Ford charges, not what the Voodoo costs. I'd be surprised if the actual COGS is 5k.

 

[tlisotta]

I care about performance and reliability numbers, not serial numbers. If the car I buy has an engine that runs well and consumes oil at a reasonable rate, I don't care much about where it came from.

No matter the engine, I'd probably push for some kind of warranty just to have some security and peace of mind (and a recourse in case something did happen).

-T

This. I have had an engine replacement and pushed for an extension on my R. I have a 5 year/75K Warranty bumper to bumper. For someone that wants to track the car - that is a great deal. FYI - mine is for sale BTW. Even if it was not, I would not have a problem buying one with a replacement engine unless you really care about collectability. We can argue that point all day. Also, if you are not tracking these cars there is no reason to own one IMO. That is what they are designed for and we all know the way the transmission pulls and is geared - it is made for turns and track use.

 

[Dragon King]

If a motor has been replaced by a certified Ford dealership and it was procured via Ford Motor Company through the standard warranty and replacement procedure, I believe it automatically gets a 3/36 on it.

My GT at 12460 miles had to have engine replaced due to faulty batch of oil coolers at build stage ( according to local Ford dealership ) New oil cooler , engine and radiator
It was still in original warranty so this was carried out by dealer. I expected this new engine and ancillaries' to then have a 3 year warranty but they refused using reason that warranty still applied and the normal time would apply ( this is according to Ford warranty conditions )
And to cap it all Ford Extended Warranty does not apply in Northern Ireland for some stupid reason so I had to seek out an Independent Warranty costing me 50% more than the Ford Warranty available on their website.
What a shitty way to treat their customers

 

[firestarter2]

20K is what Ford charges, not what the Voodoo costs. I'd be surprised if the actual COGS is 5k.

I think my replacement parts were close to 20k. A voodoo long block was at least 15 when I looked.

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