Wiring harness not available ?!

[luc]

Oh yeah the part number is 5310567

That is not a complete Ford part number
Ask them to give you the full part #

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[WD Pro]

Check out this seller on eBay :

For a U.K. salvage yard, they seem to get a surprising amount of mustangs.

I’m not connected with them in anyway and neither have I bought from them so this isn’t a recommendation

WD

Unfortunately they don’t sell the wiring harnesses

I wonder if they would in a face to face / cash / no paperwork / no warranty type scenario ?

Oh yeah the part number is 5310567

That is not a complete Ford part number
Ask them to give you the full part #

Good Ford garages seem pretty rare over here and knowledge of the Mustang even rarer, I might be tempted to try a different garage and also ask for screenshots etc.

@luc - Ford in there wisdom have different / alternative part numbers for the U.K. parts system, sometimes my parts guy has been able to link them up with the US numbers, sometimes not …

WD

 

[dani951]

Does anyone know where I can find the wiring diagram struggling to find it ?

 

[boB]

Does anyone know where I can find the wiring diagram struggling to find it ?

The Ford service manual (available from Helm Inc) has wiring diagrams and some note the RHD versions. These may have enough information to repair or recreate your harness.

 

[dani951]

The Ford service manual (available from Helm Inc) has wiring diagrams and some note the RHD versions. These may have enough information to repair or recreate your harness.

You legend I’ll have a look at that today

 

[luc]

I wonder if they would in a face to face / cash / no paperwork / no warranty type scenario ?





Good Ford garages seem pretty rare over here and knowledge of the Mustang even rarer, I might be tempted to try a different garage and also ask for screenshots etc.

@luc - Ford in there wisdom have different / alternative part numbers for the U.K. parts system, sometimes my parts guy has been able to link them up with the US numbers, sometimes not …

WD

Even if export/rhd. Have a different part #, that is not a real part #. Ford will always have also letter in it and it’s much longer
The only exception is for some fasteners but even those would have at least 1 letter

 

[Cobra Jet]

First,
is this the "2016 GT" in your profile, or another year S550 Mustang? You're not revealing much info about the car - the more the better which will help us to help you.

Second,
The wiring in the S550's can be quite complex due to what each S550 had for options, modules, etc. The harnesses for the modern day Mustang aren't like those of the past - meaning the harnesses don't come with every single wire and associated connectors with sub-harnesses for options A-Z.

If you can't find a replacement salvage yard harness, then do as suggested above - you can get the same gauge wiring (in some instances colors close to the original if beyond black) from almost any Hobby/Home/Electronics outlet.

Aside from the wiring, you can also get the Ford connectors through the Ford Motorcraft catalog (or the other links below):

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/ultimate-motorcraft-wire-pigtail-connector-guide.122242/

These below links may also help you find the plug or connector. I have no affiliation with the below businesses or know of their business etiquette, just passing along the info.

https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/

http://www.molex.com/molex/industry...=-71&pageTitle=Automotive&chanLink=Automotive

http://www.digikey.com/en/supplier-centers/m/molex

http://www.wiringproducts.com/oem-aftermarket-connectors

http://connectorexperts.com/


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If you search a little further, anyone can get the Ford wiring diagram manuals from eBay for MANY years of Mustangs. Here's just one listing of many (for a 2016):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2555314994...hl9KDNqlt1AK0xu27gLUG0PTig==|tkp:BFBM8qyM17ph

You can also go to the Ford Etis (Euro side) or Ford Motorcraft (US side) and plug the VIN. By doing so you'll get the "As Built" data that shows what the car was equipped with and you can use that info to tie back to a possible donor. Plug the donor's VIN and see how many of the components match between the (2) vehicles.

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The problem you are running up against is the fact there are differences between a UK and US harness due to all the physical changes designed between each platform to suit each Country's motor vehicle requirements.

Also on eBay - MANY S550 harnesses. You can search and search for them - not all are labeled "front, rear, body, engine" etc. Just do a generic search when looking for anything on eBay using the make, model and year - then put the word "wiring harness" after it. Yes you'll get a boatload of returns, BUT you may find what you need OR a harness that has similar lengths and colors of wiring that can be used for a repair effort.

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Can you take pics and post to show us what you're working with as far as the location and damages?

Usually all black wires are "earth" or "grounds". Those as well as any colored wires have specific alpha/numeric mappings as to what they go to, control or for tracing in the Ford Wiring Diagrams. The same is true with wiring connectors, they too are mapped in a similar fashion for back tracing, etc.

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That's all I have to offer, hopefully something above is helpful.

 

[WD Pro]

Even if export/rhd. Have a different part #, that is not a real part #. Ford will always have also letter in it and it’s much longer
The only exception is for some fasteners but even those would have at least 1 letter

I know we are a little off topic now, but here are example ford U.K. part numbers from my recent warranty claim :

And some of my other warranty claims :

So the number of digits is correct and judging by the above, I think the chance of it being a letter ‘F’ on the front is quite high

WD

 

[luc]

I know we are a little off topic now, but here are example ford U.K. part numbers from my recent warranty claim :

And some of my other warranty claims :

So the number of digits is correct and judging by the above, I think the chance of it being a letter ‘F’ on the front is quite high

WD

Not sure why but obviously the invoice is not listing the full part number
Here is an example of complete ford part numbers
JR3Z-17D957-FAPTM
JR3Z-3600-JB
Here is a good link to understand ford part numbers system
https://www.blueovaltrucks.com/tech-articles/how-to-decode-ford-part-numbers/

 

[dani951]

The part number should be GR3T -14290 -G281T ABF

 

[dani951]

First,
is this the "2016 GT" in your profile, or another year S550 Mustang? You're not revealing much info about the car - the more the better which will help us to help you.

Second,
The wiring in the S550's can be quite complex due to what each S550 had for options, modules, etc. The harnesses for the modern day Mustang aren't like those of the past - meaning the harnesses don't come with every single wire and associated connectors with sub-harnesses for options A-Z.

If you can't find a replacement salvage yard harness, then do as suggested above - you can get the same gauge wiring (in some instances colors close to the original if beyond black) from almost any Hobby/Home/Electronics outlet.

Aside from the wiring, you can also get the Ford connectors through the Ford Motorcraft catalog (or the other links below):

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/ultimate-motorcraft-wire-pigtail-connector-guide.122242/

These below links may also help you find the plug or connector. I have no affiliation with the below businesses or know of their business etiquette, just passing along the info.

https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/

http://www.molex.com/molex/industry...=-71&pageTitle=Automotive&chanLink=Automotive

http://www.digikey.com/en/supplier-centers/m/molex

http://www.wiringproducts.com/oem-aftermarket-connectors

http://connectorexperts.com/


--------------------

If you search a little further, anyone can get the Ford wiring diagram manuals from eBay for MANY years of Mustangs. Here's just one listing of many (for a 2016):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2555314994...hl9KDNqlt1AK0xu27gLUG0PTig==|tkp:BFBM8qyM17ph

You can also go to the Ford Etis (Euro side) or Ford Motorcraft (US side) and plug the VIN. By doing so you'll get the "As Built" data that shows what the car was equipped with and you can use that info to tie back to a possible donor. Plug the donor's VIN and see how many of the components match between the (2) vehicles.

--------

The problem you are running up against is the fact there are differences between a UK and US harness due to all the physical changes designed between each platform to suit each Country's motor vehicle requirements.

Also on eBay - MANY S550 harnesses. You can search and search for them - not all are labeled "front, rear, body, engine" etc. Just do a generic search when looking for anything on eBay using the make, model and year - then put the word "wiring harness" after it. Yes you'll get a boatload of returns, BUT you may find what you need OR a harness that has similar lengths and colors of wiring that can be used for a repair effort.

-----

Can you take pics and post to show us what you're working with as far as the location and damages?

Usually all black wires are "earth" or "grounds". Those as well as any colored wires have specific alpha/numeric mappings as to what they go to, control or for tracing in the Ford Wiring Diagrams. The same is true with wiring connectors, they too are mapped in a similar fashion for back tracing, etc.

---

That's all I have to offer, hopefully something above is helpful.

Yeah it’s the same car bought it off copart been doing it as a project for the last couple of months it’s nearly done just the wires need doing didn’t expect it to be such a pain until I found out how hard it is to come accords rhd parts but yeah was a full ok front end collision with bend bars and radiators gone

 

[TexasRebel]

Very hard to come across a salvage mustang in the uk the parts sell like hot cakes
Is there a good place I could find one these diagrams ?

www.motorcraftservice.com

 

[TexasRebel]

There's also parts.ford.com where you can enter your VIN. I'm not sure if it works for UK, but it's worth a try.

 

[dani951]

Hi Guys just a quick update in case this happens to someone else I managed to fix my wiring harness by using the wiring Diagramm and also buying a US version of the harness and depinning about 30/40 wires and transferring them over to my harness. Works perfectly fine now thanks for everyone’s advice

 

[Cobra Jet]

Hi Guys just a quick update in case this happens to someone else I managed to fix my wiring harness by using the wiring Diagramm and also buying a US version of the harness and depinning about 30/40 wires and transferring them over to my harness. Works perfectly fine now thanks for everyone’s advice

Good to hear you're on the way to getting it back on the road again!

Did you end up getting the harness used from eBay or another source?

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