Whoooboy....

[Oakley]

I mean, really! How much worse could it get?

We all lived through it OK. Most of us anyway. There’s always a few good ones that slip through the cracks, then and now. It’s gonna happen. But like I said for the most part it’s just natural selection.

it can get a lot worse and it will if people keep preferring the false promise of safety over actual justice. people who think its fine to ruin someone's life over something where no one was harmed are just too insulated from real hardship. in due time they will reap the whirlwind or damn their children to its effect.

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[young at heart]

it can get a lot worse and it will if people keep preferring the false promise of safety over actual justice. people who think its fine to ruin someone's life over something where no one was harmed are just too insulated from real hardship. in due time they will reap the whirlwind or damn their children to its effect.

This concept is exactly why I found it shocking that anyone could possibly believe a state would make it a felony to do nothing more than drive over 85 mph. And even worse, to not find such a thing outrageous. I can only hope that anyone who could accept such a thing casually must have no idea of the ramifications of a felony conviction.

 

[Oakley]

This concept is exactly why I found it shocking that anyone could possibly believe a state would make it a felony to do nothing more than drive over 85 mph. And even worse, to not find such a thing outrageous. I can only hope that anyone who could accept such a thing casually must have no idea of the ramifications of a felony conviction.

yeah, felony convicts lose basic human rights.

basically these are bad laws that make people feel good about being mindless unthinking broken brain morons while they watch the whole world fall around their ears.

 

[Cobra Jet]

So the jist of this thread is:
It's ok to break the law and do 130+, just as long as no one in the public was killed or maimed in the process.

LMFAO.

Ok - so I'm waiting for the post from one of those who didn't make it to 131 because they plowed into some innocent due to their own ignorance and wrecklessness and tell us all it's "ok" and how well they're sitting after the fact.

Maybe go back to this thread and ask the woman who was in a head on from another fool driving an S550 over 150 on the highway and see what her feeling is:
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/there-are-no-words….181771/

The point isn't that everyone at some point drives above the posted speed limits - that's a given. The punishment and point is - some of you have no shame and think it's great that you're going 3x-5x the posted speed limit IN PUBLIC that is endangering the public well being - regardless if you believe "no one else on the road except me OR me and the dude I'm racing WOT against". The point is, it takes less than 1/2 a second for someone to enter the path of 1 OR 2 fools blasting down a public roadway going in excess of 100, 120, 130+.

Don't you dare post that "oh, I have excellent reaction time, and got it under control". No you don't. You're not some professional driver with YEARS of Professional driving or track time under your belt just because you like to go on the highways and blip speed to "Back to the Future" and think you "got this". You don't have anything, certainly not common sense OR the courtesy of the well being of the public around you.

It's all fun and "no worries" until it happens - not if it happens, but when it happens. You may think you have things under control at XYZ speed, but what you don't have is a controlled environment and no control over the public who's sharing the same roads as you - even if it appears as if its "all clear", it's really not. Traveling in excess at 100, 120, 150 on a public roadway does not allow for ANY minute second of an event unfolding that YOU do NOT have control of.

Think about your actions. At least think about it from the perspective of what if it was someone you knew who was just out doing their errands or going from A to Z and was killed by some wreckless fool doing 130+ because "they got this" and "no one is around". Would you still feel that someone who was "just doing 130 and the penalty is too harsh, he didn't kill anyone at that time" was still justifiable AFTER he did it again and this time around did kill someone?

C'mon man... some of you have to be better than the responses in this thread.

 

[wynand32]

So, if you're getting ready to turn onto the road (one I used to drive regularly decades ago), and you see headlights a fair distance away, you may have no idea how fast that car is going and think you have plenty of time to make the turn. But the closing time at 130mph is, of course, so much shorter than anybody would expect, creating a high likelihood of a very serious accident.

The question is, then, does a person have a right to create dangerous situations that, even theoretically, put others at risk? I don't think so. What's the right punishment? I'm not sure, entirely. But it needs to be something that will impress upon the person that they don't have the right to drive in ways that are inherently dangerous for others sharing the road.

@Cobra Jet , I wrote mine after reading yours. Yours is better.

 

[wynand32]

I think some people get really bent out of shape that they just can't drive the way they'd like to drive. They want to drive fast because they have fast cars, and they can't accept how "unfair" it is that the right of others to a reasonably safe environment gets in the way.

 

[wynand32]

Don't you dare post that "oh, I have excellent reaction time, and got it under control". No you don't. You're not some professional driver with YEARS of Professional driving or track time under your belt because you like to go on the highways and blip speed to "Back to the Future" and think you "got this". You don't have anything, certainly not common sense OR the courtesy of the well being of the public around you.

I'd be willing to bet any amount of money that professional drivers would rarely drive this way on public roads. They, more than anyone, know the risks involved and understand that their extreme driving is in tightly controlled conditions that are literally engineered for high speeds. And even then, it's incredibly dangerous, even when they're driving among other professional and highly skilled drivers.

 

[wynand32]

My final comment: want to drive fast? Go to a track. That's why they exist.

 

[traxiii]

I mean, really! How much worse could it get?

We all lived through it OK. Most of us anyway. There’s always a few good ones that slip through the cracks, then and now. It’s gonna happen. But like I said for the most part it’s just natural selection.

Heck, the cars these days are soooo much safer than what we were driving back in the day. We didn't have air bags, 4 wheel anti-lock brakes, etc. My '67 Fastback's only safety devices were lap belts, padded dash and steering wheel hub.

 

[Paul McWhiskey]

My final comment: want to drive fast? Go to a track. That's why they exist.

Actually, being on a track would require one to become proficient at driving and face the ire of other drivers, who know a helluva lot more about driving a car fast, when they do something stupid. Maybe far too humbling for some. Surely all of the "drivers" who are being braggadocios about their WOT runs will also be the ones hiring the best lawyer they can afford to make the person who maims or kills one of their family pay to their last penny and wanting them to hang.

If you want to go fast, go to the track. If you want to do it on the street, pray that I am not the surviving family member.

 

[zhent]

Wait, are you sure about that? You’re saying that anything over 85 is actually a felony in VA, period, no accident notwithstanding?

I know they’re tightening up everywhere but that sounds way too draconian. That would put speeding up there with armed robbery! One of us must be missing something.

Many years ago, one of the editors over at Jalopnik spent three days in jail for 35+ over the limit in Virginia. It may not be a felony, but they're serious over there.

Never Speed In Virginia: Lessons From My Three Days In Jail (jalopnik.com)

 

[Berserk]

The amount of people that act like they've never broke the speed limit off the track on here amazes me lol. Such a weird stance to take.

 

[shogun32]

I'm guilty of doing over the limit and triggering a reckless had the police been present. . Doesn't make it right. And I'd have no cause to bitch should I have reaped what I was sowing. Doesn't matter if the road was a 8 lane divided interstate with cars miles ahead and miles behind me.

Guilty is guilty.

I've been fortunate. I've only hurt myself. I don't know if I could live with myself if I hurt or killed someone else. But why shouldn't the society by way of the law impose penalty for dangerous conduct? And dissuade such conduct? No amount of monetary or physical recompense will bring back a life lost to egregious display of selfishness.

 

[Oakley]

I've been fortunate. I've only hurt myself. I don't know if I could live with myself if I hurt or killed someone else. But why shouldn't the society by way of the law impose penalty for dangerous conduct? And dissuade such conduct? No amount of monetary or physical recompense will bring back a life lost to egregious display of selfishness.

so go to the police station, confess, and do your time. lead by example.

 

[wynand32]

The amount of people that act like they've never broke the speed limit off the track on here amazes me lol. Such a weird stance to take.

Red herring.

Stick to the facts: 2-lane road with intersections, at night, 130mph. That's what this thread is about.

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