Whoooboy....

[shogun32]

take a life? give your life. that's the rules

Show me where that happens in traffic situations! It doesn't. Kill a motorcycle rider and you barely get a ticket, not a second degree murder charge.

There was no victim this time, but how about if he had sent 3 other cars careening into the concrete divider on i65 earlier that evening and killed and maimed no less than 1 other person? Do we get to attach his nonexistent assets and let the victims families take a butcher knife to his limbs?

We should but we don't. Driving is a privilege and the penalty should be serious for violating the social contract.

The problem with prisons is that they aren't. Prison should be like Russian or german work camps where you die of exposure and malnutrition while your body is destroyed by hard labor.

Ok maybe we don't go quite that medieval but the experience should be absolutely hell. And it most definitely is not.

Ok how about 18th century lashing. 1 stroke per mph over the limit. His body will heal just fine. But I'll bet he won't want to experience that again.

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[MAGS1]

He was speeding, which is against the law, got caught and was given the punishment deemed appropriate by the state of Indiana for breaking said law. That’s the way it works (or is supposed to work) in this country. If you live in Indiana and think the punishment doesn’t fit the crime, tell your local congressman. Again, that’s how it works in this country. And I’ll stop there before going down a giant rabbit hole as that’s a place better suited outside this forum

 

[Oakley]

Yeah dudes like you guys were cool with the govt when it was illegal to be a Jew, too. So brave. So just.

 

[rhexis]

wow not cool at all. at night time with reduced visibility on a two lane roadway with intersections and been driving less than 2 years. moron is lucky he didnt die or kill someone else. makes me miss the old days when you would get slapped around a bit and some oc in your hood vents as a parting gift.

 

[young at heart]

Shit here in VA anything over 85 is a felony with required court appearance.

Jayson Werth (MLB player for the Natioanls) got caught doing 105 on the belt way years ago. Had to sever his sentence on the weekends.

" In 2015, he pled guilty on a reckless driving charge after going 105 mph (169 km/h) in an area where the speed limit was 55 mph (89 km/h). He was sentenced to five days in jail, and his driver's license was suspended for 30 days."

Wait, are you sure about that? You’re saying that anything over 85 is actually a felony in VA, period, no accident notwithstanding?

I know they’re tightening up everywhere but that sounds way too draconian. That would put speeding up there with armed robbery! One of us must be missing something.

 

[Biggus Dickus]

shit i did that last weekend racing a C8 before backing off cause i didn't know the area too well.

130 is nothing.

Yup. And just because he's charged with a felony doesn't mean he'll be convicted of one.

 

[Biggus Dickus]

Wait, are you sure about that? You’re saying that anything over 85 is actually a felony in VA, period, no accident notwithstanding?

I know they’re tightening up everywhere but that sounds way too draconian. That would put speeding up there with armed robbery! One of us must be missing something.

That's one of the reasons I love CA - lots of wide open desert and mountain roads with no cops.

 

[shogun32]

You’re saying that anything over 85 is actually a felony in VA, period,

it is an immediate, don't pass go "reckless" driving citation. So is anything +20 over posted. Sometimes (often?) accompanied by automatic, don't pass go jail time to be served, right there, right now and the car goes to the impound, you can see the judge in the morning.

more here:
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title46.2/chapter8/#article7/
per https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title46.2/chapter8/section46.2-865.1/ if you injure or kill while 'racing' or reckless it's a class 6.

 

[young at heart]

Shit here in VA anything over 85 is a felony with required court appearance.

Jayson Werth (MLB player for the Natioanls) got caught doing 105 on the belt way years ago. Had to sever his sentence on the weekends.

" In 2015, he pled guilty on a reckless driving charge after going 105 mph (169 km/h) in an area where the speed limit was 55 mph (89 km/h). He was sentenced to five days in jail, and his driver's license was suspended for 30 days."

OK, here’s the VA statute as another poster was kind enough to link to:

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Table of Contents » Title 46.2. Motor Vehicles » Subtitle III. Operation » Chapter 8. Regulation of Traffic » Article 7. Reckless Driving and Improper Driving » § 46.2-865.1. Injuring another or causing the death of another while engaging in a race; penalties

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§ 46.2-865.1. Injuring another or causing the death of another while engaging in a race; penalties.
A. Any person who, while engaging in a race in violation of § 46.2-865 in a manner so gross, wanton and culpable as to show a reckless disregard for human life:
1. Causes serious bodily injury to another person who is not involved in the violation of § 46.2-865 is guilty of a Class 6 felony; or
2. Causes the death of another person is guilty of a felony punishable by a term of imprisonment of not less than one nor more than 20 years, one year of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment.
B. Upon conviction, the court shall suspend the driver's license of such person for a period of not less than one year nor more than three years, and shall order the surrender of the license to be disposed of in accordance with the provisions of § 46.2-398.
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Decidedly NOT a felony to just go over 85. That made no sense.

 

[Oakley]

Wait, are you sure about that? You’re saying that anything over 85 is actually a felony in VA, period, no accident notwithstanding?

I know they’re tightening up everywhere but that sounds way too draconian. That would put speeding up there with armed robbery! One of us must be missing something.

There's a bridge near my house where i regularly do 0-130 pulls. It might be quarter mile long. Putting someone in jail for that when no other traffic is around is evil.

 

[KingKona]

I can't bring myself to condemn the driver.

We've swung past ridiculous with speeding penalties, and it's time to dial it back a bit.

 

[KJZ28]

There's a bridge near my house where i regularly do 0-130 pulls. It might be quarter mile long. Putting someone in jail for that when no other traffic is around is evil.

Agreed.
Before my Mustang I had a lightly tuned 2010 Camaro SS, after 5 years of ownership I could tell by feel how fast I was going. Then I got the Mustang... One day I was trying to keep up with a last generation base 911, I thought I was doing about 110mph at one point and looked at the speedo and saw 142mph. That was scary, the car was so much more stable and smooth then the Camaro, and quiet. Ever since then I have made sure to look at the speedo. But I can see how this car masks speed.

 

[young at heart]

There's a bridge near my house where i regularly do 0-130 pulls. It might be quarter mile long. Putting someone in jail for that when no other traffic is around is evil.

It sure is.

Us old guys frequently revert to “back in the day” and I guess it gets tiresome for you youngsters.

But in those days (ca. 1967-1970) if you knew anyone who knew a judge (everyone did) you just had to go see him with a half gallon of Jack before the cop turned in his ticket book at the end of the week and boom, problem solved. Buck-30, buck-40, whatever. No biggie.

Was that system fair? Probably not, but such is the way with the principles of natural selection. It worked for us.

 

[Oakley]

It sure is.

Us old guys frequently revert to “back in the day” and I guess it gets tiresome for you youngsters.

But in those days (ca. 1967-1970) if you knew anyone who knew a judge (everyone did) you just had to go see him with a half gallon of Jack before the cop turned in his ticket book at the end of the week and boom, problem solved. Buck-30, buck-40, whatever. No biggie.

Was that system fair? Probably not, but such is the way with the principles of natural selection. It worked for us.

judging by the state of decay in our society i say we go back to the old ways.

 

[young at heart]

judging by the state of decay in our society i say we go back to the old ways.

I mean, really! How much worse could it get?

We all lived through it OK. Most of us anyway. There’s always a few good ones that slip through the cracks, then and now. It’s gonna happen. But like I said for the most part it’s just natural selection.

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