Who will swap for the new 7.3 V8!

[millhouse]

Exactly my argument. I should have expanded on that. Makes zero sense based on COST. Iron should be cheaper and yes it is more durable. However it is not and Ford missed the mark.

It would be cheaper if you are looking at the bigger picture. An aluminum race prepped coyote starts at $3000, assuming you already have a block. It's north of $4500 without. If teams truly are going thru multiple blocks per year, then there absolutely is a case for buying an Iron block....that can be bored over several times without needing expensive sleeves.

And yes, while they typically are cheaper....these prices are based on low volume sales, recouping tooling costs and making a profit.

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[nastang87xx]

It would be cheaper if you are looking at the bigger picture. An aluminum race prepped coyote starts at $3000, assuming you already have a block. It's north of $4500 without. If teams truly are going thru multiple blocks per year, then there absolutely is a case for buying an Iron block....that can be bored over several times without needing expensive sleeves.

And I've never heard of this before and we all know that there are some cars out there that are pushing stupid numbers from a stock sleeved Coyote block. Maybe it's happening, maybe not. I'm not on the drag strip every weekend. But if you are banking on blowing up a piston and turning one of your bores into a disco ball then yes there's an argument there. But again, not sure who's killing multiple blocks a year.

 

[Bikeman315]

millhouse & friends. That’s why this thread will never die

 

[Bikeman315]

Oh God let it die!

 

[bluebeastsrt]

This makes as much sense as the 2jz swap thread to me.

 

[Norm Peterson]

It wouldn't be difficult, just expensive. They would need a business case beyond throwing it in a Boss mustang.

Unfortunately true. And Ford is getting out of the sedan/coupe building business as fast as they can. I do see some difficulty with the height of this 7.3, and getting it to fit under any sane hood line. That's before considering the excessive amounts of lowering that people seem to insist on doing . . .


It would be glorious if they went this route. Can you imagine a 7.3L engine with the same weight as the coyote? The potential for that engine is huge.[/QUOTE]
I have to wonder what that potential really is. I guess if a 7.3L rumble is that important, or if you're a hardcore drag racer with a diehard "no replacement for displacement" outlook . . .

For a Mustang (or any car, for that matter) I'd much rather see a destroked version. I'm afraid I don't see much point in having an engine that makes more torque way down low than you can fully use before 3rd gear. Not in these days of 6 speed manual transmissions and 6/8/10 speed automatics. Back in the day when the 4M's and 3A's had first gear ratios in the two's (the 2A Powerglide 1st gear was in the ones!) and overdriven gears were rare, sure.

I think I'm less bothered by the pushrods than I am by the long stroke, which makes its character that of a truck engine regardless of valvetrain. Happiest doing low-rpm heavy work, not so much for high-revving fun.


Norm

 

[millhouse]

Unfortunately true. And Ford is getting out of the sedan/coupe building business as fast as they can. I do see some difficulty with the height of this 7.3, and getting it to fit under any sane hood line. That's before considering the excessive amounts of lowering that people seem to insist on doing . . .

I have to wonder what that potential really is. I guess if a 7.3L rumble is that important, or if you're a hardcore drag racer with a diehard "no replacement for displacement" outlook . . .

For a Mustang (or any car, for that matter) I'd much rather see a destroked version. I'm afraid I don't see much point in having an engine that makes more torque way down low than you can fully use before 3rd gear. Not in these days of 6 speed manual transmissions and 6/8/10 speed automatics. Back in the day when the 4M's and 3A's had first gear ratios in the two's (the 2A Powerglide 1st gear was in the ones!) and overdriven gears were rare, sure.

I think I'm less bothered by the pushrods than I am by the long stroke, which makes its character that of a truck engine regardless of valvetrain. Happiest doing low-rpm heavy work, not so much for high-revving fun.


Norm

Different strokes for different folks eh?

 

[Bikeman315]

This makes as much sense as the 2jz swap thread to me.

This needs to be moved to the members lounge, like now.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Different strokes for different folks eh?

Probably.

If I was a 'truck guy' instead of a 'corner-carving guy' I'd probably drool over the possibility of the F150 getting the 7.3 as an option. But as things stand I wouldn't pair this 7.3 with a Mustang any more than I'd want the Transit Connect van to be available with the Voodoo.


Norm

 

[millhouse]

Probably.

If I was a 'truck guy' instead of a 'corner-carving guy' I'd probably drool over the possibility of the F150 getting the 7.3 as an option. But as things stand I wouldn't pair this 7.3 with a Mustang any more than I'd want the Transit Connect van to be available with the Voodoo.


Norm

I see this as a perfect swap choice for a foxbody with loads of potential.

 

[zackmd1]

Probably.

If I was a 'truck guy' instead of a 'corner-carving guy' I'd probably drool over the possibility of the F150 getting the 7.3 as an option. But as things stand I wouldn't pair this 7.3 with a Mustang any more than I'd want the Transit Connect van to be available with the Voodoo.


Norm

That's why a 429 instead of a 445 makes perfect sense! Drop the stroke to 3.84 instead of 3.976 and it would make a 429. Dropping the stroke should allow it to rev higher. That coupled with a more aggressive cam, high rpm tuned intake, should make it much more of a performance motor than a truck motor.

 

[TexasRebel]

This makes as much sense as the 2jz swap thread to me.

 

[GT Pony]

I just can't see how this engine was in any way intended for the Mustang.

That's why this thread is at 213 pages ... and growing once again.

 

[Strokerswild]

And it's going to snowball thanks to that Fox video as well as once more such swaps go down. Let alone once go-fast parts sprout up for this thing.

Brian Wolfe has seen a thing or two, and undoubtedly knows more than what he lets on in that vid.

 

[Bikeman315]

And it's going to snowball thanks to that Fox video as well as once more such swaps go down. Let alone once go-fast parts sprout up for this thing.

Brian Wolfe has seen a thing or two, and undoubtedly knows more than what he lets on in that vid.

That’s fine. So put this thread in a Fox body forum. This is a S550 forum. Unless you’re putting one of these monsters in your S550 forgetaboutit!!!

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