What the Hell is Wrong with Us?

[Hack]

I think it's a bit worse, in my opinion. I think he's likely to say whatever he wants as long as it suits his agenda, and that agenda isn't aligned with the average citizen. Even if it's more toward your opinion than mine, imagine the implications of what you just said. He's more concerned with the optics of the virus versus the best course of action for the country.

I understand that you are political about it. I think he tends to try to help the American people more than most politicians.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...ose-risk-transmitting-2019-novel-coronavirus/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ho...-rescind-travel-ban-amid-coronavirus-outbreak

But I'm pretty sure that nothing will change your mind.

No offense take. I understand your position. That said I really thought the mods would have moved it by now. I know it didn't belong in the general forum but the topic is so important and so relevant that I wanted the maximum number of eyes on it. For those who do not like it, don't click on it simple.

I also wasn't looking for anyone to agree or disagree. I do find it amazing the number of members who are taking such a laissez faire attitude about a pandemic. Oh, it's no big deal, we all have to die sometime. But G-D forbid someone scratches their Mustang. We truly live in a f-cked up world.

And by the way, cursing at the mods, not a great idea.

I think most people who have strong immune systems aren't too worried about themselves. Hopefully many of those people already have it and are nearing or have reached immune status. That will eliminate them from being able to spread it in the future. Most of us should try to limit spread as much as we can.

According to Mediabiasfactcheck, AP and Reuters are rated as "least biased", while the BBC earns a left-center bias rating.


Norm

It's hilarious that the AP was rated "least biased".
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/5550...trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents

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[Sivi70980]

39 years old and healthy/active. Don't watch TV or play on any normal social media, this forum is a social media as I get. My information comes from those around me at work and I guess here as well as friends/family. Was just told the bldg. I worked at last week before coming here to work in Colorado has a confirmed case of Coronavirus. So from what I've heard/read, I might be infected and not showing symptoms yet and EVERYONE I've been in contact with on the plane here and all, may have now also been infected by me. Wednesday the 18th will be 2 weeks since I was in the bldg. so I'm likely fine unless I'm a carrier and just spreading it all over the place. My outlook doesn't change, I'm getting up every morning and going to work as directed and then training for a cycling event in August. If the event is somehow canceled, the mountain will still be there and I'll still climb the thing. No urge to buy toilet paper so maybe I'm totally fine.

As far as flu shots go, only time I ever got the flu was the one year I got the shot. Like 2 weeks of crappy flu. Never got the flu shot again and haven't ever had the flu the now like 15 years later. In my experience, flu shots can suck it. That being said, if it helps others, by all means, make it so.

 

[Bikeman315]

No urge to buy toilet paper so maybe I'm totally fine.

 

[dpAtlanta]

The Shelby started getting hotter than normal and felt like it was having a hard time getting air. It also felt like it was down on power..... the thing felt weak.

I started looking to see it I could find out what was causing the symptoms my Shelby was experiencing.

Here is what I have found so far:

"Alright buddy... open up and say "Ahhhh"

"Okay, let's see what we have here....."

Well this explains the elevated temperature, the trouble breathing, and the lack of energy.
You're in the garage for 14 days my little friend.... and stay at least six feet away from your stablemate.

[EDIT] I forgot to attach the last photo..............DOH!!!!

 

[ManyfordsnoMustang]

^that is just gorgeous

 

[Rash]

Flu roughly .1% death rate. COVID-19 thus far about 2-4 %. Per 1,000,000 infected, that’s 1000 deaths for flu, 20,000 per corona on the low end. About 300 million in American population. Even if only 1 in 10 get corona, that 30 million infected, and 600,000 deaths. At 3% death rate, that’s 900,000 deaths.Flu vaccine probably helps keep numbers low. No vaccine yet for corona, So it’s far worse than the flu for now. Those are facts. You can kill the messengers all you want (media, Trump), but it doesn’t change the fact that this virus is far more deadly than the flu and has the potential to wipe out nearly 1,000,000 Americans or more. When independent infectious disease expert’s, the CDC, the WHO, are all recommending minimal social contact to try to lessen the spread, you are at best a complete idiot not to believe that, and at worse responsible for many other infections and deaths for not taking precaution to avoid spreading it.

 

[shogun32]

I started looking to see it I could find out what was causing the symptoms my Shelby was experiencing.

I didn't realize inhaling the air-filter was a sure-fired way to increase performance. If you want max air-flow I use air-handler mat sandwiched between screen-door mesh.

 

[Shifting_Gears]

I feel like I was safer gnawing on window sills as a kid than stepping outside in the current state of things.

 

[Joe B.]

Remember the Polio sugar cube vaccine? Thousands of us stood in line and took our medicine.
I grew up in a large metropolitan area and never personally knew anyone who got the disease.
But it did ruin many lives. One of our greatest Presidents was crippled by it.
Through a massive effort it is now mostly eradicated.

 

[shogun32]

Through a massive effort it is now mostly eradicated.

only in medically equivalent countries. We allow millions of diseased to cross thru the southern border to work in the food chain for 3rd-world wages.

 

[dpAtlanta]

Reply #81.............. I forgot to add the Punch Line.
It will make sense now.

In my best Homer Simpson voice......"Doh!

 

[Balr14]

It doesn't matter if you think it won't affect you, if you think it's a hoax, if you think it's over reaction, or any other rational you can use to ignore it. It will have significant social and economic impact on you and everyone else! You are NOT immune to the impact!

 

[Shift]

I don't claim to be the smartest person. I just know that when doctors, experts, career health professionals tell me how to help stem the virus, I do it. I don't blow off their recommendations, I don't think I know better than them(Any dumb anti-vaxxers around here?).

TLDR: If you're not a professional in the health care field, shut the fuck up and listen to what they're telling you.

 

[shogun32]

TLDR: If you're not a professional in the health care field, shut the fuck up and listen to what they're telling you.

then read the UK paper where they did the actual numbers of various strategies and NONE of them do a damn bit of good. Until and unless 65% or rather more people are exposed and develop antibodies, it will spread in exponential function every time the "social distancing" is relaxed. We can suffer a single spike or repeated spikes in transmission. It's not totally benign to the under 40 crowd but the sooner reality is faced the sooner this economic pain can be put behind us. I can't find the cite but one of the Chinese studies of Wuhan district observed some 85% of infections were asymptomatic.

US Restaurant Association Projects Up To 7 Million Jobs Lost Over 3 Months - and now the Big3 and their numerous suppliers all go into layoffs. If all that economic pain doesn't do a gd thing in 6 months time, was it worth it?

 

[ManyfordsnoMustang]

only in medically equivalent countries. We allow millions of diseased to cross thru the southern border to work in the food chain for 3rd-world wages.

No not in medically equivalent countries. Most of the poorest countries in the world have eradicated it. I was a Rotarian, this is one of the items we worked on the hardest. It was almost completely wiped out. There are a few countries that fear the injection and they are the only ones that have it. I believe its down to one country in 2019 but as of 2017 only 3.

From WHO:
Polio does still exist, although polio cases have decreased by over 99% since 1988, from an estimated more than 350 000 cases to 22 reported cases in 2017. This reduction is the result of the global effort to eradicate the disease. Today, only 3 countries in the world have never stopped transmission of polio (Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria)

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