UPR catch can with Procharger

[Chris Barnes]

I just emptied my UPR Procharger specific catch can after about 2,000 miles of driving. I was extremely surprised to find less than 1 oz of oil/condensation in there. Curious if anyone else has had similar results since I keep reading horror stories of how much these cars benefit from catch cans. For reference, my setup is as follows:

2018 GT Premium PP, A10
P1X Procharger (8 psi)
ID1050x
NGK6510's
UPR Procharger specific catch can
Factory active exhaust with Magnaflow resonator

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[whatsup62]

I ran two different types of catch cans in the pass...including the one you are using. I would get about the same amount you are seeing. Little background - I ran a JLT small one when NA. When I went PC at 6500 miles I looked in the intake and saw oil all over. I took off the intake and cleaned it out. Put PC on and added the catch can you now have. At about the 10k mark I noticed oil coming out of the bottom of the PC head unit. I thought it had a leak. I went to a aftermarket intake and when I took off the stock one (which I had previously cleaned) it was full of oil again. Both catch cans were catching oil and water but a lot got by. The oil from the head unit was blow by getting trapped in the impeller and gravity would take the oil that fell out of suspension and leaked it out, it had no where else to go. When I put on the new intake I went to a breather setup. I'm now at 22k and the inside of intake is as clean and dry as the day I put it on. No more oil dripping out of the head unit either.
Not trying to talk you out of a catch can setup, just sharing my experience as well as others that have had the same result.

 

[JennyStang]

2015 mustang with maggy blower and UPR catch can with valve. After 3k miles mine had that cup full of oil.

 

[ProChargerTECH]

Im the only weirdo that doesn't run one... lol

 

[Chris Barnes]

Weirdo, maybe. But smarter than me, because the stupid thing seems to be useless!

 

[turnswrench]

I also still have no catch can. I did see oil when I pulled the manifold to install the IMRC lockouts. I am considering purchasing a solution, sounds like this isn't it.

 

[NewTekBuzz]

What would happen if you just closed that loop off? Plugged it at the valve cover.
Just a question, don’t roast me...

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Is the intake pulling from the pass side VC? What about oil vapo

What would happen if you just closed that loop off? Plugged it at the valve cover.
Just a question, don’t roast me...

Pressure would build in the crankcase causing oil aeration and seal leakage.

 

[DeadLoad]

What about adding a second (cheap) inline catch can on the hose to the intake? Hopefully catching anything the first one doesn't.

 

[ahl395]

After about 5k miles my UPR would be nearly full.

In the winter, it would be full after a couple hundred miles from condensation. Being that your in Arizona, you won't have a problem with condensation.

If your can is hooked up right and you're not catching much oil, that's a good thing. Means you don't have alot of blow-by and your rings are in good shape.

I ran two different types of catch cans in the pass...including the one you are using. I would get about the same amount you are seeing. Little background - I ran a JLT small one when NA. When I went PC at 6500 miles I looked in the intake and saw oil all over. I took off the intake and cleaned it out. Put PC on and added the catch can you now have. At about the 10k mark I noticed oil coming out of the bottom of the PC head unit. I thought it had a leak. I went to a aftermarket intake and when I took off the stock one (which I had previously cleaned) it was full of oil again. Both catch cans were catching oil and water but a lot got by. The oil from the head unit was blow by getting trapped in the impeller and gravity would take the oil that fell out of suspension and leaked it out, it had no where else to go. When I put on the new intake I went to a breather setup. I'm now at 22k and the inside of intake is as clean and dry as the day I put it on. No more oil dripping out of the head unit either.
Not trying to talk you out of a catch can setup, just sharing my experience as well as others that have had the same result.

I had the same issue. UPR can would fill quickly and then the Procharger would suck it in and leak it out as well as blow it out of my BOV. That was my last straw with the UPR can.

I also still have no catch can. I did see oil when I pulled the manifold to install the IMRC lockouts. I am considering purchasing a solution, sounds like this isn't it.

Being that you live in a colder state, I would steer clear of the UPR. It's sealed and will fill up very quickly with condensation. Go with breathers or a catch can that doesn't recirculate back into the intake.

What would happen if you just closed that loop off? Plugged it at the valve cover.
Just a question, don’t roast me...

As said, the purpose of it is to release the pressure that builds up in the crankcase. Stock setup has that air rerouted back into the intake, but oil comes with it, hence the "need" for catch cans. You can also let that air out with a breather, but somehow it has to be let out.

Is the intake pulling from the pass side VC? What about oil vapo


Pressure would build in the crankcase causing oil aeration and seal leakage.

The UPR can has the pass side and driver side go together with a T before going into the can, then one "clean" line out from the can into the intake.

 

[rum_punch_ruby]

For those of you using breathers what ones do you suggest? I assume it wouldn't matter what centri sc you are running.

 

[Roush05]

Any filters will work but I bought these from LMR: https://lmr.com/item/LRS-261340JR/mustang-gt-pcv-breather-kit-1116

You can get some from a local store for cheaper I'm sure.

 

[fiveoboy01]

What is the advantage or disadvantage to running breathers over a catch can setup? Obviously no oil can get into the intake tract... what is the downside?

FWIW, I had the Ford Performance catch can on my '17 GT for about 3500 miles and when I pulled it off to install the blower, there was 3-4 ounces of oil in it. Not a lot.

 

[Chris Barnes]

A little update. I just changed the oil after about 4,000 miles. Re-checked the UPR catch can and actually found about 2 oz. of oil/condensation in there (about 800 miles since I last checked it). The temps here in Arizona have dropped dramatically in the past few weeks and has been rainy. I think alh395's theory of cooler/damp weather playing a role is good one.
I have the nose of the car apart again so I can weld my Tial BOV on the driver side intercooler tank and weld bungs on my charge tube for the meth system. I was extremely pleased not to find even a drop of oil anywhere in charge tubes or intercooler. The UPR Procharger specific catch can must be doing an ok job. The car has just shy of 5,000 miles, nearly 4,000 of which have been with the Procharger installed.

 

[AZ18yote]

A little update. I just changed the oil after about 4,000 miles. Re-checked the UPR catch can and actually found about 2 oz. of oil/condensation in there (about 800 miles since I last checked it). The temps here in Arizona have dropped dramatically in the past few weeks and has been rainy. I think alh395's theory of cooler/damp weather playing a role is good one.
I have the nose of the car apart again so I can weld my Tial BOV on the driver side intercooler tank and weld bungs on my charge tube for the meth system. I was extremely pleased not to find even a drop of oil anywhere in charge tubes or intercooler. The UPR Procharger specific catch can must be doing an ok job. The car has just shy of 5,000 miles, nearly 4,000 of which have been with the Procharger installed.

Awesome!

Ya recent significant weather changes have been weird...

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