TPMS help

[Cordero1]

Hello everyone & good morning. Looking to see if anyone could help me solve this issue before having to get a headache from my local Ford dealership.
Bought some wheels a while back when I purchased my mustang. I ordered the tires & had a local tire shop install them along with some TPMsensors. The wheel sat in the garage until winter passed & this last summer I threw them on. Drove just fine without issues. One day on a long cruise my TPMS light came on. I remembered the guy telling me to stop by to sync the sensors soI did. Tried it the next day, turned car on. All sensors read, so off I went. About the :45 mark once again I got the light. Went in the next day & the guy tried programming them again. He said he might of used the wrong year model. So once again off I went. Tried the next day & once again around the :45 mark got a light. We did this all week long. Told him they had to be Ford oem sensors & he claims to never have had this issue. So after a few more tries he gave up. He ordered some oem sensors & put them on this past Friday.

Driving around Friday trying to run out my fuel I had forgotten all about it. Well sure enough at the :45 mark of driving the light comes on again. He claims he ordered OEM sensors this time. Took a few pics. Every day they all read just fine. Then one or two of them go out. What could be my problem? Gonna throw on my oem wheels on today see if that sets them off as well. My last car wouldn't even have to sync the sensors. He said if it didn't work this time, that it's most likely an issue with my car. The pics are from 2 different days. All in order from when I took them. Any help is appreciated. Would like to avoid my local Ford shop if possible. They are a nightmare to deal with. Thank you!

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[Skye]

FWIW, I just did some research on OEM items, if it helps in confirming what is currently installed.

When dealing with electrical or electronics, I always buy OEM parts from a trusted reseller, dealer or Ford. I do not buy said items on EBay or like sites. Like you mentioned, you don't know how old they are, if they are counterfeit, etc.

The sensors have a battery and an accelerometer; they turn on as the wheel spins. I cannot speak to shelf life.

I bought the kit from Ford Performance:

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-1180-B

But I know you'd like individuals, without the key. The key is not needed 99% of the time. New versions automatically sync after driving like 100 yards or so (or mine did anyway).

I checked my 2022 factory rims in the basement and found "PA6-GF35". I found a like item at CJPony Parts:

https://www.cjponyparts.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=tpms-35

https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-ti...v6-2015-2017-ecoboost-gt-2015-2022/p/TBANDS5/

Read the details on the above part. While the initial information says up to 2020, the details say up to 2022.

Hope this helps.

 

[Cordero1]

FWIW, I just did some research on OEM items, if it helps in confirming what is currently installed.

Thank you for this. It's what I'm assuming as well (not Ford OEM) just similar. The guy is being very helpful so I'm not trying to hassle him much. So when I try my oem wheels today, they should sync up with out programming?

 

[Skye]

So when I try my oem wheels today, they should sync up with out programming?

I did some reading up on different user experiences before buying mine. The latest generation of sensors, of which you should have, sync automatically after several minutes of driving. Mine sync'd like in the first 100 yards / 91 m. Haven't had any problems since.

I haven't read of or encountered your unique issue. I don't have a lot of experience in what the sensors can throw as far as faults. But confirming type and PN# is a good start. Even coming from Ford, and being Mustang, they can be specific. For example, many of the ones used on GT500s, 350s and Rs, will not work on GTs and Mach 1s.

And the age. You're not going to be able to tell the age (I haven't seen a date on mine). But even if they did buy something Ford from somewhere, like on-line, 3rd party, they might be really old.

 

[Cordero1]

I did some reading up on different user experiences before buying mine. The latest generation of sensors, of which you should have, sync automatically after several minutes of driving. Mine sync'd like in the first 100 yards / 91 m. Haven't had any problems since.

I haven't read of or encountered your unique issue. I don't have a lot of experience in what the sensors can throw as far as faults. But confirming type and PN# is a good start. Even coming from Ford, and being Mustang, they can be specific. For example, many of the ones used on GT500s, 350s and Rs, will not work on GTs and Mach 1s.

And the age. You're not going to be able to tell the age (I haven't seen a date on mine). But even if they did buy something Ford from somewhere, like on-line, 3rd party, they might be really old.

I will ask the gentleman if he still has the package it came in. I feel like they are like the ones you posted from CJpony parts. "Like oem". Because the price difference is quiet a bit more than what he charged me for them the 1st time & didn't ask me to pay a price difference the 2nd time. I told him they had to be Ford oem specifically for these years, but he claimed to never have had this issue before. Your info confirms my assumption.

 

[NightmareMoon]

A dealership will have a sync tool which can usually get oem-compatible sensors to pair up if you're having trouble. Should take all of 2 minutes.

 

[S550_GTCS]

Below are the ones I've used in the past. Have bought about 5 sets so far and they all synced within minutes. They are cheap too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/171889613623?hash=item28056b5b37:gf8AAOSwDNdVy0e3&amdata=enc:AQAIAAAA0LO+sjUSq88x31WVnO/jII+7jmVt8XPDPhZ8KWFqO5PfNi4GVrJIuVu38TceSE9musQMMtS7JFSPeOUU+4LiB6emrVmpEfs78wov+N+/FVV5R3FPlEsBl28p3wsMMeNqcvfnurlqsTTvqciIT3x+kC90fo695JEEjNyaIV1qmO1Jvxlr5P2NeZN1ZOjwC/It+TnTUnC1iqKQfMxESpuylz1R0L5N/zLqp+n8txjCDVSWBqY5q82WSBXHdHAAS/5eI7nXX2iQdkkSaf5cd2pIVdI=|tkp:Bk9SR-aY7732YQ

 

[Cordero1]

A dealership will have a sync tool which can usually get oem-compatible sensors to pair up if you're having trouble. Should take all of 2 minutes.

A dealership will have a sync tool which can usually get oem-compatible sensors to pair up if you're having trouble. Should take all of 2 minutes.

The shop I go to has one as well, it's not the same small controller that you get with the sensors, it's one he uses to program multiple brands with. I would try that, but my local dealer would probably charge my a few hundred dollars just for the sync. Not an exaggeration either. Thanks for the suggestion either way.

 

[Cordero1]

Below are the ones I've used in the past. Have bought about 5 sets so far and they all synced within minutes. They are cheap too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/171889613623?hash=item28056b5b37:gf8AAOSwDNdVy0e3&amdata=enc:AQAIAAAA0LO+sjUSq88x31WVnO/jII+7jmVt8XPDPhZ8KWFqO5PfNi4GVrJIuVu38TceSE9musQMMtS7JFSPeOUU+4LiB6emrVmpEfs78wov+N+/FVV5R3FPlEsBl28p3wsMMeNqcvfnurlqsTTvqciIT3x+kC90fo695JEEjNyaIV1qmO1Jvxlr5P2NeZN1ZOjwC/It+TnTUnC1iqKQfMxESpuylz1R0L5N/zLqp+n8txjCDVSWBqY5q82WSBXHdHAAS/5eI7nXX2iQdkkSaf5cd2pIVdI=|tkp:Bk9SR-aY7732YQ

Well he says he usually uses some from an ebay vendor. The 2nd set he said they were ford specific. So idk if it's as the gentleman above stated that even if they're ford specific, does not mean they are a ford made part, but 3rd party vendor. Thank you for the links though

 

[shogun32]

100% success rate buying from tpms.com and generally the best price by a mile.

Sounds like you have at least failing module. Loose and banging around perhaps? The batts don't last forever so unless you know your stock is fresh...

NEVER trust ebay for TPMS. Your success rate is 50/50 at best. I once got a dozen KNOWN BAD sensors - they even had an 'X' in sharpie on them.

Discount Tire has quite the selection and the ability to program pretty much anything. Except they want $60/per which is nuts.

 

[Cordero1]

100% success rate buying from tpms.com and generally the best price by a mile.

Sounds like you have at least failing module. Loose and banging around perhaps? The batts don't last forever so unless you know your stock is fresh...

NEVER trust ebay for TPMS. Your success rate is 50/50 at best. I once got a dozen KNOWN BAD sensors - they even had an 'X' in sharpie on them.

Discount Tire has quite the selection and the ability to program pretty much anything. Except they want $60/per which is nuts.

Thanks for the tip on that site. If the stock wheels solves the issue, I will have him swap them out & give me a refund. Then with that I'll order a quality set.

 

[Cordero1]

Well, threw my stock wheels back on. Either the TPMSensors don't automatically sync, or there is something else wrong with my car that it's not reading the sensors. This was worse than the ones with the aftermarket wheels I've been having issues with. Drove around for :30 & got the TPMS light & not one sensor t reading.

 

[Discount Tire]

Well, threw my stock wheels back on. Either the TPMSensors don't automatically sync, or there is something else wrong with my car that it's not reading the sensors. This was worse than the ones with the aftermarket wheels I've been having issues with. Drove around for :30 & got the TPMS light & not one sensor t reading.

Sorry you are dealing with these TOMS issues. It can be frustrating. If there is a Discount Tire location near you, they can diagnose most TPMS issues while you wait. Store personnel will do an inspection for you at no charge.

Hope that helps.

 

[Cordero1]

Sorry you are dealing with these TOMS issues. It can be frustrating. If there is a Discount Tire location near you, they can diagnose most TPMS issues while you wait. Store personnel will do an inspection for you at no charge.

Hope that helps.

Oh man I wish you guys were close. Closest one is 3.5 hours away. My dealership would probably take it in to diagnose the problem, say it took 8 hours & try to charge me for it even though it's under warranty. They do it every time. Always slip in the comment "you should of bought it locally" during the argument. I try & avoid it as much as possible. Thank you regardless.

 

[Discount Tire]

Oh man I wish you guys were close. Closest one is 3.5 hours away. My dealership would probably take it in to diagnose the problem, say it took 8 hours & try to charge me for it even though it's under warranty. They do it every time. Always slip in the comment "you should of bought it locally" during the argument. I try & avoid it as much as possible. Thank you regardless.

I hear you. I wish there was an easy solution. TPMS systems are a wonderful tool to keep us safe, but having been in the trenches as a store manager, I will admit that it can be frustrating tool to work with at times.

Looking back over the thread, I might recommend a few things.

If you still have your stocks on, take your car to a local tire shop and have them do a simple relearn. That will tell you if your OE sensors are dead or dying. They may just need to be "woken up". That will be a base line test to see if it's a sensor problem or a system problem.

Have that shop scan the aftermarket sensors to ensure they are programmed properly for the vehicle. it might be just that simple.

Sorry for the long winded response, but I think we need to regroup and start from scratch.

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