The wheels are falling off...

[Epiphany]

Why is it so difficult to do the same thing for 2022/2023 engines that was done for 2020/2021? Is it a UAW thing, were there process changes...what? This is getting ridiculous. We've talked about valve cover issues elsewhere but this first one I have to share was issued today. The second "mess" deals with a soft plug leak issue. These are added to the list of other ongoing problems with an engine that you'd think was sorted out by now.

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[wingnutt]

lol…job security?

 

[rp930]

Sweet. Under the wire.

 

[Tomster]

And who says owning the first model year of a new car is a bad thing?

Oh, and the UAW workers want a raise?

Anyone remember the quality issues in the 20 GT500s?

A bunch of people who don't care except for when it's lunch or time to go home.

 

[DonnieO]

And who says owning the first model year of a new car is a bad thing?

Oh, and the UAW workers want a raise?

Anyone remember the quality issues in the 20 GT500s?

A bunch of people who don't care except for when it's lunch or time to go home.

Don't forget the smoke breaks.

 

[Tomster]

Don't forget the smoke breaks.

They get smoke breaks?

 

[WildHorse]

Unions use to be a good thing.. not so much anymore.

 

[RagmopInKona]

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Unions use to be a good thing.. not so much anymore.

Union workers don't make the parts that are not made to spec. But don't let that get in the way , and most likely don't make the instalation tooling either.

 

[Johnny Rockit]

And who says owning the first model year of a new car is a bad thing?

Oh, and the UAW workers want a raise?

Anyone remember the quality issues in the 20 GT500s?

A bunch of people who don't care except for when it's lunch or time to go home.

I was always told Wednesdays are the best days when it comes to production but then again, I never worked on an assembly line.

 

[WildHorse]

Union workers don't make the parts that are not made to spec. But don't let that get in the way , and most likely don't make the instalation tooling either.

So when they see two mismatched seats and instead of flagging the car they say 'fuck it'.. who's fault is that ?

 

[RagmopInKona]

So when they see two mismatched seats and instead of flagging the car they say 'fuck it'.. who's fault is that ?

The shift manager that said install them, then the inspection manager that said SEND IT.
You clearly have never worked on a line, or worked EVER.
The minons union or not, do what the manager, management tell them.
But it is EASIER to use the minons as a target, bonus if they happen to be union, RIGHT!!.
Not the manager that told them to keep the line moving and SEND IT!
Q/C at FORD is a MANAGEMENT PROBLEM. They send the units out the door.
The HOURLY peon checks off the issues and notes them on the inspection sheet, As it getting fixed adds hours to their pay, management makes the call to IGNORE the Inspection Q/C issues and tell them to SEND IT.

 

[kilobravo]

The second "mess" deals with a soft plug leak issue

All I can say Tob is, UFB.

 

[WD Pro]

The second "mess" deals with a soft plug leak issue.

All I can say Tob is, UFB.

Yeah at least the first TSB is a fix, that second one seems like a band aid at best, and very reliant on the tech doing it 100% correctly / conscientiously AND the product being 100% reliable on a fix of that nature.

I'm not sure how all that can be guaranteed on a difficult to access area, on a car that's had some road time, on a core plug that's got coolant on the back of it (and potentially weeping - based on the nature of the TSB ?) ...

Based on the user instructions for 290, there are some definite challenges with a repair of this nature :

And who says owning the first model year of a new car is a bad thing?

Yeah there are defo pros and cons either way.

Early years - potential product and assembly teething problems.

Later years - cost savings (let's be nice and call it 'value engineering') and assembly complacency.

Without the experience of time, no one truly knows which is going to be the bigger pain in the arse for the end user ...

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[smokescreens]

You would be amazed at how much is assembled by non manufacturer hands. I deliver to a stellantis plant for work. The engines, transmission, dash, axles, ect all come to the plant completely assembled in what is called a sub assembly. That way at the line its just a few bolts and electrical connections and it goes down the line.

 

[WD Pro]

You would be amazed at how much is assembled by non manufacturer hands. I deliver to a stellantis plant for work. The engines, transmission, dash, axles, ect all come to the plant completely assembled in what is called a sub assembly. That way at the line its just a few bolts and electrical connections and it goes down the line.

Yeah I managed to get myself on a tour of the Jaguar Land Rover plant at Halewood (everywhere other than paintshop) and that was a very interesting night.

Through work, I have also had the need to go into one of the JLR sub assembly suppliers (interior trim and fittings for the Evoque) and also multiple JCB facilities.

There's not a high proportion of my work that I truly enjoy, but I really enjoy stuff like that ...

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