the EcoBoost or the v6?

[stangs-R-me]

The Mustang was only meant to have an inline 6. And that's all people wanted. I believe the V8 came in 1966.

NOPE ... the 260, 289 2V, 289 4V and 289 HI-PO were all available in 1965.

All engines were available right at launch except the 289 HI-PO which became available after June 1st 1964. So even the early 65's (typically called 64-1/2), could have had any of the V8's including the HI-PO.

Doug

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[04SloSnake]

Uh, ecoboost or V6, I understand about taking of power but the guy was wanting the opinion between the two.... have you even driven the ecoboost in a small autocross? I was impressed

I apologize, I did get a little off topic. My response was directed at Waylap1 saying he needed to drive the Ecoboost. Unfortunately I have not even gotten to sit in a S550 due to living in Japan. I would imagine the Ecoboost would be an absolute blast on an autocross track or in the canyons, which is where mine will spend a significant amount of time.

I just want people to be realistic when they test drive these cars as I don't see a test drive being real impressive. Most of the shops that have been getting the Ecoboost and throwing them on the dyno have run them on the 87 octane provided by the dealership. Supposedly that would make the Ecoboost a 270hp car, which seems accurate from the dyno numbers some shops have gotten. Better gas alone will wake the car up and a tune has them flying.

OP, with that being said I chose to get the Ecoboost due to the Premium option and the potential left in the motor. I know a lot of people are concerned (and rightfully so) about warranty, but FRPP should put out a power pack with intake, exhaust, and tune which will make this a whole different car.

 

[Tamadrummer88]

NOPE ... the 260, 289 2V, 289 4V and 289 HI-PO were all available in 1965.

All engines were available right at launch except the 289 HI-PO which became available after June 1st 1964. So even the early 65's (typically called 64-1/2), could have had any of the V8's including the HI-PO.

Doug

Thank you for clarifying that. I was always under the impression that the V8's weren't available immediately, and that the Mustang was never meant to have a V8.

 

[FireBird]

I wonder if automatic trans would get the same "hate" treatment.

 

[Spartan]

If the prices of all three models were the same, I'd agree with you. It's tough to ignore that these fuel cost differences are on top of the significant difference in cost between the models, though even without that difference $200-400 per year adds up over time.

Correct. You have the upfront cost which is obviously $6k or so and then over time the gas hit.

Also, someone in an EB is definitely going to drive differently then someone in a GT.

EBs on the highway are getting in the high 30's. The GTs in the mid 20s.

That's a much higher gas savings then the sticker estimates.

 

[04SloSnake]

And honestly how many people are going to run their GT on 87 octane? Every base tune I have seen is based on 93 octane with the ability to tune for 91. My old GTI got better gas mileage after a tune whereas my Cobra got worse. I think the gas price difference between the 2 are going to be fairly significant.

 

[Seabee1973]

I apologize, I did get a little off topic. My response was directed at Waylap1 saying he needed to drive the Ecoboost. Unfortunately I have not even gotten to sit in a S550 due to living in Japan. I would imagine the Ecoboost would be an absolute blast on an autocross track or in the canyons, which is where mine will spend a significant amount of time.

I just want people to be realistic when they test drive these cars as I don't see a test drive being real impressive. Most of the shops that have been getting the Ecoboost and throwing them on the dyno have run them on the 87 octane provided by the dealership. Supposedly that would make the Ecoboost a 270hp car, which seems accurate from the dyno numbers some shops have gotten. Better gas alone will wake the car up and a tune has them flying.

OP, with that being said I chose to get the Ecoboost due to the Premium option and the potential left in the motor. I know a lot of people are concerned (and rightfully so) about warranty, but FRPP should put out a power pack with intake, exhaust, and tune which will make this a whole different car.

Lol... its understandable.....most people that have test driven an ecoboost ..the car wasn't even broke in.... any of the cars actually.... I went to the mustang bucket list... they had cars over there (michigan plates) small closed unlevel autocross setup at the mall... it was in the upper 30s to low 40 that day... the ecoboost was a beast, the gt was a monster though rode bit#h on that one. The ecoboost handled like a true eurocar.... wish I was able to drive it more and actually drive the GT... 3 days left, lol 3 days!

 

[Tamadrummer88]

And honestly how many people are going to run their GT on 87 octane? Every base tune I have seen is based on 93 octane with the ability to tune for 91. My old GTI got better gas mileage after a tune whereas my Cobra got worse. I think the gas price difference between the 2 are going to be fairly significant.

Honestly i would. If i were to buy a GT it would be the most powerful car i have ever owned, so i doubt i would even feel a power difference compared to someone that came from a previous 5.0 and can actually feel the power difference between the octanes. Why not save some money in fuel costs?

 

[stevec]

Honestly i would. If i were to buy a GT it would be the most powerful car i have ever owned, so i doubt i would even feel a power difference compared to someone that came from a previous 5.0 and can actually feel the power difference between the octanes. Why not save some money in fuel costs?

You have a point. Most powerful car I ever owned was a 180bhp Alfa 159 Diesel!
It just has to be a V8 for me though
Silly thing is, the only reason I decided to look at the Mustang was because I found out the were offering a sensible engine....I have just got caught up in the whole Muscle Car thing!....Plus I am knocking on the door of 50 years young!

 

[WhiteLightning]

I wonder if automatic trans would get the same "hate" treatment.

Probably not now that the automatics come with paddle shifters.

 

[04SloSnake]

Honestly i would. If i were to buy a GT it would be the most powerful car i have ever owned, so i doubt i would even feel a power difference compared to someone that came from a previous 5.0 and can actually feel the power difference between the octanes. Why not save some money in fuel costs?

I assume you are going to keep it stock?

 

[robb]

That would be a tough call for me. I prefer the sound of the v6 much more than the ecoboost.

 

[FireBird]

Probably not now that the automatics come with paddle shifters.

In the meanwhile I over heard guys at work talking about pedal shifters "yeah, they give them pedal shifters to make these guys feel like they're driving a race car, ha ha ha"... :-/ (I'm getting an auto gt in a few days)

 

[Tamadrummer88]

I assume you are going to keep it stock?

Most i would do is a CAI and cat back. Thats if i get a GT. If i get an EcoBoost i may follow that same route but knowing that the EcoBoost is pretty much required to take higher octane fuel then so be it.

 

[Spartan]

Most i would do is a CAI and cat back. Thats if i get a GT. If i get an EcoBoost i may follow that same route but knowing that the EcoBoost is pretty much required to take higher octane fuel then so be it.

If I was to get a GT, it would be kept stock. And I would run 87 in it because it would be a DD and on the weekend have a little fun but not much.

If I was to get a EB, I would definitely get the PP (because Europe is getting that one) and that makes me feel that Ford thinks the EB needs the PP over in Europe to give it that Eurocar feel. I'd also add the Touring Ford Racing exhaust.

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