the EcoBoost or the v6?

[Waylap1]

I believe the first Mustang was a six cylinder with an optional V8.
But after just owning a 2011 GT manual with Roush exhaust, I don't think I would be happy with an EB or V6. But then again, I haven't had a chance to drive either one.
I can say this though, the 2011 GT black on black got more comments, attention and admiration than any car I've previously owned, to include BMW, Saab, Audi, Mercedes.
Every gas station fill up was a chat session with everyday people that just love the V8 Mustang. Even a little old lady started up a conversation about it when I was putting change in the meter on a little Main Street in Northeast P.A
I think that sort of thing was half the fun of owning it.
I really need to drive the new EB though.

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[04SloSnake]

The Ecoboost, like most stock turbo cars, is going to be relatively underwhelming. It is the nature of the beast. My Cobra picked up 20whp from a tune, which was noticeable, but not in the same league as turbo motor improvement. Hell, my Mazdaspeed 3 picked up 28whp from nothing but a CAI. People need to be realistic about these cars. They are not meant to compete with the GT, but it will be funny beating Cameros in a 4cyl Mustang.

 

[Brent302]

While true, I looked into stock LS3 SS times and the Ecoboost is a drivers race with them. Different strokes for different folks, but the performance numbers are encouraging.

I don't doubt that. I'm just saying the 3.7 has better times then most Challenger R/Ts of yesteryear and people didn't care and it got old trying to explain it to people and in the end I wasn't saving on fuel since I had to keep the 3.7 wound up to have any fun.

The Ecoboost and 3.7 are awesome its just the hate is there and will be there more than most can fathom/handle.

 

[Tamadrummer88]

I believe the first Mustang was a six cylinder with an optional V8.
But after just owning a 2011 GT manual with Roush exhaust, I don't think I would be happy with an EB or V6. But then again, I haven't had a chance to drive either one.
I can say this though, the 2011 GT black on black got more comments, attention and admiration than any car I've previously owned, to include BMW, Saab, Audi, Mercedes.
Every gas station fill up was a chat session with everyday people that just love the V8 Mustang. Even a little old lady started up a conversation about it when I was putting change in the meter on a little Main Street in Northeast P.A
I think that sort of thing was half the fun of owning it.
I really need to drive the new EB though.

The Mustang was only meant to have an inline 6. And that's all people wanted. I believe the V8 came in 1966.

 

[Seabee1973]

The Ecoboost, like most stock turbo cars, is going to be relatively underwhelming. It is the nature of the beast. My Cobra picked up 20whp from a tune, which was noticeable, but not in the same league as turbo motor improvement. Hell, my Mazdaspeed 3 picked up 28whp from nothing but a CAI. People need to be realistic about these cars. They are not meant to compete with the GT, but it will be funny beating Cameros in a 4cyl Mustang.

Uh, ecoboost or V6, I understand about taking of power but the guy was wanting the opinion between the two.... have you even driven the ecoboost in a small autocross? I was impressed

 

[e30og]

Head says you should go ecoboost
Heart says V6

Just out of interest may I ask those from the US this question. Will you have awkward discussions with car people about your engine choice if you dont get a V8
Part of the reason I am getting a V8 is I dont want discussions like this
"Hello mate, nice car"
" Oh thanks, yeh its alright in it"
"Yeh I love American cars, what engine is it?"
"Err 4 cylinder eeoboost"
Oh, right, Err that seems a bit strange in a Mustang"
"Yeh, well I just dont think I could run a V8"
"yeh, I know what you mean, still a nice car though"

So, I dont want that discussion but surely it will be even worse in the US, the home of the V8, Or are you guys really coming round to this green thing now and I am going in the other direction and just about to have my first V8?

Just interested

That discussion has no bearing on my decision, rather my personal taste. I dont base my choices for something this expensive and personalized on dick measuring contests with total strangers. That being said the entire convo ends when I mention the word "turbo", otherwise "more hp & torque than the V6". End of story.

Add to the fact that the ecoboost is the most anticipated engine in this car (spare the fpc), and ppl are actually are more interested. Just yesterday some guy in a parking lot confessed how he read everything to know about the ecoboost before asking to sit in it. He was a Honda salesman and we were in front of a Honda showroom ahaha, four ppl including a few from across the street ran over to ogle. I have gotten a lot of stranger shoutouts and all are excited to see "the new '15!" This car is very multi-dimensional. Gone are the days where sheer numbers are all that matters because there is so much more to this ponycar that makes it so desirable.

The V8 will always triumph, but the 305hp 3.7 brought the non- V8s into relevancy. I also have yet to meet anyone who didnt praise the V6 on the handful of occasions I rented one or countless times if it came up in conversation. Most ppl dont care. When I was deciding on the model my coworkers actually rolled their eyes and suggested against the V8 knowing it would be my dd; there is negative perception of the V8 from a practicality standpoint. In my experience only the ponycar or musclecar faithful view it in such inferiority

 

[PortalMaker]

Given the choice I'd go with the Ecoboost hands down. The Ecoboost has the power you need for a DD and still has really good fuel economy when your cruising.

I had to do a trade and got to drive 2 Ecoboosts (a 201A and 100A) for roughly an hour each this past Thursday. I was able to get them to average out 38-40 on the highway (even 44 in the 201A for a brief 2 minutes). It was great!

I'd wait till after January to see if Ford counters with any premium options for the V6 against the new Camaro. Then see what happens.

If they add a premium level for the V6 I'll get that over the EB.

Highly doubtful. Ford's plan is to push the Ecoboost for those who don't want the V8. Which means keeping the V6 as a base vehicle with little to no options... and possibly eventually phasing the V6 out.

 

[MagneticA]

You realize that your not saving as much as you think you are in gas by not getting the gt right?
Lets assume my local gas prices: regular fuel: $2.88///Premium: 3.18 Each car drives 10k miles a year.


GT: 20mpg @ 10k miles. 500 gallons used. x 2.88 = $1440 a year
EB: 26 @ 10k miles. 384.6 gallons used. x 3.18 = $1223 a year
v6: 22 mpg @ 10k miles. 454 gallons used. x 2.88 = $1309 a year

Your saving $216 a year in gas. Even if you use premium in both, your only saving $366 a year. That is $30 or less a month. I'll take the GT for that.

The way in which we drive a v6/EB gets us closer to those numbers (22/26). The way in which we drive a GT makes it more difficult to hit that 20 mpg number. Numbers on paper don't equal numbers on the road.

Either v6 or EB will be enjoyable to drive. Simply decide if you want and can afford certain upgrades or not. Think about it emotionally and financially and then make a choice that fits you. You'll be happy either way!

 

[Horse]

Head says you should go ecoboost
Heart says V6

Just out of interest may I ask those from the US this question. Will you have awkward discussions with car people about your engine choice if you dont get a V8
Part of the reason I am getting a V8 is I dont want discussions like this
"Hello mate, nice car"
" Oh thanks, yeh its alright in it"
"Yeh I love American cars, what engine is it?"
"Err 4 cylinder eeoboost"
Oh, right, Err that seems a bit strange in a Mustang"
"Yeh, well I just dont think I could run a V8"
"yeh, I know what you mean, still a nice car though"

So, I dont want that discussion but surely it will be even worse in the US, the home of the V8, Or are you guys really coming round to this green thing now and I am going in the other direction and just about to have my first V8?

Just interested

That's spot on when I owned my 3.7 V6 received mostly hate. Then I bought a Challenger with the 5.7 V8 (bucket of slow) and everyone loved it.

Fair warning to people buying the EB or V6 you better grow some thick skin quick because 9 out of 10 people will hate on your mustang. It's the sad truth.

Thick skin, yes. But I would not call that "hate" -- maybe my skin is indeed already very thick.

 

[14MustangV6]

You realize that your not saving as much as you think you are in gas by not getting the gt right?
Lets assume my local gas prices: regular fuel: $2.88///Premium: 3.18 Each car drives 10k miles a year.


GT: 20mpg @ 10k miles. 500 gallons used. x 2.88 = $1440 a year
EB: 26 @ 10k miles. 384.6 gallons used. x 3.18 = $1223 a year
v6: 22 mpg @ 10k miles. 454 gallons used. x 2.88 = $1309 a year

Your saving $216 a year in gas. Even if you use premium in both, your only saving $366 a year. That is $30 or less a month. I'll take the GT for that.

Now, EB vs v6. If the premium options don't matter to you, I would take the v6 all day.

If the prices of all three models were the same, I'd agree with you. It's tough to ignore that these fuel cost differences are on top of the significant difference in cost between the models, though even without that difference $200-400 per year adds up over time.

 

[Horse]

From the perspective of fuel requirement/recommendation, if EB should use premium gas then so should GT. No?

 

[TiE2000]

When I was making my decision, I was able to drive all the engine types. after driving the V6 and EB back to back, I liked the EB better. So much so, that I almost bought the EB. I was sold on the EB for some time, and I would have been very happy with that decision.

Yes I did end up ordering a GT, but it was NOT because I care what other people think I should buy. I simply liked the power right out of the gate.

The EB has FAR more potential than the V6 aftermarket. The aftermarket has embraced the turbo 4. In a year we will be seeing these EB's putting down crazy HP/TQ, safely.

I say get the EB, you will be far happier with your decision in a year. You'll probably get less grief down the road, as again a lot of the import / euro guys are adopting the mustang purley because of the EB platform and potential.

 

[Spartan]

From the perspective of fuel requirement/recommendation, if EB should use premium gas then so should GT. No?

Well, 93 vs 87 but you can run 87 in the EB if you just want DD use and still get around 290 HP in it. The premium puts it at 315 hp. The recommended fuel is 87 for all 3 engines. They put a * there saying the Turbo needs 93 for the HP gains. Otherwise the EB is around 290-295 HP at 87 octane.

If you go by premium in the EB vs standard in the GT, it comes out like this.

If you go by what the GTs are getting highway (using the forums are a gauge), which is around 26 mpg and most EB are getting around 35 mpg easily, that's an 8 mpg difference.

Add in the cost of premium which is .50 more on average, and you are spending about $7.50 more on a 15 gallon fill up for the EB premium fuel. If you spend the $7.50 more on the GT and base unleaded, then you are getting about 17.5 gallons for the same price spent on premium (an extra 2.5 gallons).

That gives the GT about 455 miles on the that fill up cost $$ vs about 525 miles in the EB.

If you just run 87 octane in both, then obviously the EB wins hands down. When you do 87 vs 93 it's closer but still a 50+ mile difference in the EB. If you put 93 in both then its just like the 87. EB wins again.

Its really what your $$$ situation is.

 

[Horse]

Yes, this makes sense.

 

[Lord Thunder]

Head says you should go ecoboost
Heart says V6

Just out of interest may I ask those from the US this question. Will you have awkward discussions with car people about your engine choice if you dont get a V8
Part of the reason I am getting a V8 is I dont want discussions like this
"Hello mate, nice car"
" Oh thanks, yeh its alright in it"
"Yeh I love American cars, what engine is it?"
"Err 4 cylinder eeoboost"
Oh, right, Err that seems a bit strange in a Mustang"
"Yeh, well I just dont think I could run a V8"
"yeh, I know what you mean, still a nice car though"

So, I dont want that discussion but surely it will be even worse in the US, the home of the V8, Or are you guys really coming round to this green thing now and I am going in the other direction and just about to have my first V8?

Just interested

Depends on where you live:
EB: 50k EUR retail.
V8: 160k EUR retail.
I will never ever be able to afford to even purchase a V8 here, even if I wanted to.

On Topic: I would go for the Ecoboost mainly for the running cost. But I guess being in Europe again makes a difference: Fuel prices are higher and we only have 91 octane or better at our gas stations.

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