Stock Rod Limit

[drabon74]

Looks like people who know a lot about these eb engines have agreed that to get more than what we have already seen is gonna take going into the motor and spending some nice coin. It's not fair to expect this little engine pushing around a 3500 lb car to be compared to a GT, the motor is simply too small to get this car into the 12 without doing drag radials, weight reduction, and pushing the little engine to the breaking point. I wanted to get to the low- 12s without sacrificing the durability of my car, that's why I got the GT. This car looks to be good for mid 13s on street tires, dp and safe tune. That is still plenty fast but you are not gonna be on the streets embarrassing gt owners.
If ford had used the 2.7 or 3.5 I would have bought that model, those engines have enough upside to safely get into the 12's (the 3.5 maybe 11's) without wringing the life out of em. Hopefully ford offers a 2.7 or 3.5 down the road.

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[cosmo]

Looks like people who know a lot about these eb engines have agreed that to get more than what we have already seen is gonna take going into the motor and spending some nice coin. It's not fair to expect this little engine pushing around a 3500 lb car to be compared to a GT, the motor is simply too small to get this car into the 12 without doing drag radials, weight reduction, and pushing the little engine to the breaking point. I wanted to get to the low- 12s without sacrificing the durability of my car, that's why I got the GT. This car looks to be good for mid 13s on street tires, dp and safe tune. That is still plenty fast but you are not gonna be on the streets embarrassing gt owners.
If ford had used the 2.7 or 3.5 I would have bought that model, those engines have enough upside to safely get into the 12's (the 3.5 maybe 11's) without wringing the life out of em. Hopefully ford offers a 2.7 or 3.5 down the road.

This car will hit mid 12s safely with a good tune and not threaten the durability. You'll just need some tires like the nitro invos or nt05. The only suspect part is the con rod, and if you keep it within a safe limit, they will last for a long time. I don't have any qualms about that. The focus hasn't seen any durability problems with tunes yet, and this engine is very similar to that one.

They probably won't offer an ecoboost v6 any time soon, unless it is priced over the GT.

 

[arghx7]

I don't think there is any consensus on the limitations of the engine hard parts, but rather consensus on the risk of pushing the stock turbo to its absolute limits.

 

[Apwrx]

Looks like people who know a lot about these eb engines have agreed that to get more than what we have already seen is gonna take going into the motor and spending some nice coin. It's not fair to expect this little engine pushing around a 3500 lb car to be compared to a GT, the motor is simply too small to get this car into the 12 without doing drag radials, weight reduction, and pushing the little engine to the breaking point. I wanted to get to the low- 12s without sacrificing the durability of my car, that's why I got the GT. This car looks to be good for mid 13s on street tires, dp and safe tune. That is still plenty fast but you are not gonna be on the streets embarrassing gt owners.
If ford had used the 2.7 or 3.5 I would have bought that model, those engines have enough upside to safely get into the 12's (the 3.5 maybe 11's) without wringing the life out of em. Hopefully ford offers a 2.7 or 3.5 down the road.

Lol. You do realize they've run mid 13's stock and mid 12's tune and tire. No worries your gt will get smoked by a 4 soon. Better get some mods:cheers:
Btw I was in the 12's with a few bolt ons and a tune with a 4cyl 12 yrs ago.

 

[04SloSnake]

Looks like people who know a lot about these eb engines have agreed that to get more than what we have already seen is gonna take going into the motor and spending some nice coin. It's not fair to expect this little engine pushing around a 3500 lb car to be compared to a GT, the motor is simply too small to get this car into the 12 without doing drag radials, weight reduction, and pushing the little engine to the breaking point. I wanted to get to the low- 12s without sacrificing the durability of my car, that's why I got the GT. This car looks to be good for mid 13s on street tires, dp and safe tune. That is still plenty fast but you are not gonna be on the streets embarrassing gt owners.
If ford had used the 2.7 or 3.5 I would have bought that model, those engines have enough upside to safely get into the 12's (the 3.5 maybe 11's) without wringing the life out of em. Hopefully ford offers a 2.7 or 3.5 down the road.

Can be done and has been done quite a few times. He wasn't going for 12's though or it wouldn't have been pushed that hard. And don't worry, there will be plenty of guys running their GT into the mid-low 13's on the factory rubber.

 

[dgc333]

In the current issue of Mustangs and Fast Fords FRPP took three 15 Mustangs to the strip to test some of there new products. The EB Mustang ran 12.56 @ 109 mph on the FRPP tune, exhaust and drag radials. I believe they said the car had 3.73 gears and they also had stiffer bushings in the rear cradle and the FRPP heavy duty half shafts.

 

[TheZman]

In the current issue of Mustangs and Fast Fords FRPP took three 15 Mustangs to the strip to test some of there new products. The EB Mustang ran 12.56 @ 109 mph on the FRPP tune, exhaust and drag radials. I believe they said the car had 3.73 gears and they also had stiffer bushings in the rear cradle and the FRPP heavy duty half shafts.

Alot of the performance companies from what ive seen aren't even changing the half shafts there just giving it a tune throwing on DR's and sending it down the strip. And some are doing tune ,bolt-ons and DR's and sending it down.. only heard of a few changing out the half shafts. Most of these companies got the standard Ecoboost with auto tranny,regular suspension and the longer gears.. makes me wounder if they had the Performance Pack how much better they would do with the better suspension and 355 gears. Also i wonder it the half shafts are better on the PP? Also wonder if theres a difference in the half shafts in the EcoBoost and GT?

 

[Juben]

Alot of the performance companies from what ive seen aren't even changing the half shafts there just giving it a tune throwing on DR's and sending it down the strip. And some are doing tune ,bolt-ons and DR's and sending it down.. only heard of a few changing out the half shafts. Most of these companies got the standard Ecoboost with auto tranny,regular suspension and the longer gears.. makes me wounder if they had the Performance Pack how much better they would do with the better suspension and 355 gears. Also i wonder it the half shafts are better on the PP? Also wonder if theres a difference in the half shafts in the EcoBoost and GT?

I too have also wondered if the PP would make a noticeable difference. You'd think the PP would post slightly better numbers than a base EBM.

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[greg hazlett]

Living on borrowed time with DR's and the stock half shafts.

 

[TheZman]

I too have also wondered if the PP would make a noticeable difference. You'd think the PP would post slightly better numbers than a base EBM.

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It should with 355 gears and better suspension. When i was at the dealership test driving them i Drove a magnetic standard Ecoboost.. The car i actually went there to buy. Then my second test drive was the one i bought a Performance Pack Guard.. I felt a huge difference! The PP was actually out of my price range and i actually went there with plans of buying the standard magnetic eco.. But the dealer talked me into test driving the PP. After that i didnt even want the standard anymore. It was almost a problem tho because at first we couldnt come up with a deal on the PP and i almost walked. In the end we came up with a price on the PP that i could live with and i drove it home! Like i said i felt a huge difference in torque and handling with the PP..

 

[Juben]

It should with 355 gears and better suspension. When i was at the dealership test driving them i Drove a magnetic standard Ecoboost.. The car i actually went there to buy. Then my second test drive was the one i bought a Performance Pack Guard.. I felt a huge difference! The PP was actually out of my price range and i actually went there with plans of buying the standard magnetic eco.. But the dealer talked me into test driving the PP. After that i didnt even want the standard anymore. It was almost a problem tho because at first we couldnt come up with a deal on the PP and i almost walked. In the end we came up with a price on the PP that i could live with and i drove it home! Like i said i felt a huge difference in torque and handling with the PP..

Me too. I've seen some say that they couldn't tell a difference, but I sure could as well. I drove a base EBM first, then the PP second. I wanted to get a PP from the get go, but I wanted to see if it was indeed an improvement or was just like most other cars with "sport" packages. I'll love my PP and wouldn't want it any other way.

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[dgc333]

Alot of the performance companies from what ive seen aren't even changing the half shafts there just giving it a tune throwing on DR's and sending it down the strip. And some are doing tune ,bolt-ons and DR's and sending it down.. only heard of a few changing out the half shafts. Most of these companies got the standard Ecoboost with auto tranny,regular suspension and the longer gears.. makes me wounder if they had the Performance Pack how much better they would do with the better suspension and 355 gears. Also i wonder it the half shafts are better on the PP? Also wonder if theres a difference in the half shafts in the EcoBoost and GT?

I am quite sure FRPP added the half shafts and bushings to show case those products with the hopes of generating sales.

 

[cosmo]

I am quite sure FRPP added the half shafts and bushings to show case those products with the hopes of generating sales.

There has been quite a few blown GTs busting their half shafts.

 

[Ron@cp-e]

I am quite sure FRPP added the half shafts and bushings to show case those products with the hopes of generating sales.

totally agree
I'd consider upgrading the shafts if I had a manual car and was planning to run stickies at the track (which the Ford ecoboost test car was exactly that example)

I'm thinking an A6 car will not go through half shafts like a manual car

Lastly, the Ford upgrades are not only heavy duty but actually heavy :doh:
you'll be adding 30-40lbs when installing these upgraded shafts

 

[04SloSnake]

There has been quite a few blown GTs busting their half shafts.

There have been quite a few bolt on GTs busting them too. The difference right now seems to be auto vs manual. Bama pulled a 1.59 60 with their EB on a DR, but it has an auto.

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