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What code is it throwing? You wouldn't work at the Booby Trap by chance? (Only joking)
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If the car is running good and it's only the check engine light try a parts store like Autozone, they will check it for free.
You can get bluetooth OBDII readers off Amazon for less than $30 and read codes with a free app on your phone. No need to even bother taking it anywhere.
 
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Thank you everyone!

The check engine light turned off a few hours after I left the dealership. Still want to check it out Incase it happens again. I will buy an obd2 scanner on amazon like suggested so I am ready.

The advisor at the dealer was able to get the code that the tech read on the scanner. It was two codes, P040d and P051a. When I researched them it doesn’t sound like anything having to do with the oil temperature like they said so I guess this was a “it’s modded so get it out if here” type of situation.

Which I do get but still they should be able to be lenient, my warranty is up in June, they will get rid of me at that time so help me out now is the way I see it.
 

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Thank you everyone!

The check engine light turned off a few hours after I left the dealership. Still want to check it out Incase it happens again. I will buy an obd2 scanner on amazon like suggested so I am ready.

The advisor at the dealer was able to get the code that the tech read on the scanner. It was two codes, P040d and P051a. When I researched them it doesn’t sound like anything having to do with the oil temperature like they said so I guess this was a “it’s modded so get it out if here” type of situation.

Which I do get but still they should be able to be lenient, my warranty is up in June, they will get rid of me at that time so help me out now is the way I see it.
Ford powertrain warranty is 5/60 so you have a couple of years remaining on the engine.
 
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P040d is typically diesel code for exhaust temls to high. P051d is for crank case lressjre high which could be related to the catch can if it has become plugged.
 

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Catch cans are a liability and can absolutely introduce problems where no problem previously existed. I have yet to see a single example of actual problems associated with carbon buildup on our 2.3 engines. Do yourself a favor and retire the catch can and go back to OEM. There was a 5.0 that blew the engine after installing a catch can and he was lucky that Ford replaced his engine under warranty. He was told to Not put another one on.
 
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Catch cans are a liability and can absolutely introduce problems where no problem previously existed. I have yet to see a single example of actual problems associated with carbon buildup on our 2.3 engines. Do yourself a favor and retire the catch can and go back to OEM. There was a 5.0 that blew the engine after installing a catch can and he was lucky that Ford replaced his engine under warranty. He was told to Not put another one on.
Wow, thanks for that heads up. I have never installed one before and honestly if the car wouldn’t have came with it I probably wouldn’t have installed one anytime soon or at all even. I will see how I can just remove it, I never messed with it before so I will have to do some research on it. Thanks!
 

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Catch cans are a liability and can absolutely introduce problems where no problem previously existed. I have yet to see a single example of actual problems associated with carbon buildup on our 2.3 engines. Do yourself a favor and retire the catch can and go back to OEM. There was a 5.0 that blew the engine after installing a catch can and he was lucky that Ford replaced his engine under warranty. He was told to Not put another one on.
This. There is no hard evidence catch cans do anything helpful. Sure they do catch carbon buildup, etc, but there is no proof it is harmful. Even if it was, I doubt we would even see the benefits of it before getting rid of the car, assuming there are any. For example, I highly doubt with a catch can this car lasts 50K miles longer than one without. And even if it does, is it a matter of 250K vs 300K? No one will have their car that long anyways. Maybe it might be more useful in a racing application, but for a spiritual street driver, I wouldnt get one.
 

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I will also third my opinion that catch cans are snake oil, and are a means for these vendors to make great money on the insane markup they charge for them. $300 for a can? Wow.

But people just call us dumb and we don't know anything. That a catch can should be your #1 first mod leaving the dealer lot.

Yes, for the high HP guys with big boost, there is in advantage to upgrading the PCV to a larger more flowing system for crank case pressure reasons, but that is not the same as installing a can to a bolt-on car.
 

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I say this with all respect, we all know what dealerships SHOULD do in regards to warranty work, but we have enough data history to see that's not always the case.

However, as an owner with aftermarket parts, you should always cover your own ass and put as many stock parts back on the car as you can.

The OP fell victim to a.) a scummy dealership and b.) brought the car in with mods. If those two things happen, chances are you're going to get stuck footing the bill.

Go to a different dealership.
 

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Ford has an official document telling dealer to check for every mod and deny warranty if any of the mods exist. it includes literally everything like CAI, any exhaust, turbo, intercooler, WGA...etc. And Dealer does not have to prove it caused the issue. they can simply say that it did and that's it. Mag law is written in somewhat of a vague language that the dealer can easily win if they say it caused it.

Mods are different than replacement parts and thats what dealer can use as a reason to void warranty. They will have harder time voiding warranty on OE like replacement but if you replaced it with a performance parts some dealers can pull BS and say your warranty is void even though the mod is proven to be safe.
 

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Ford has an official document telling dealer to check for every mod and deny warranty if any of the mods exist. it includes literally everything like CAI, any exhaust, turbo, intercooler, WGA...etc. And Dealer does not have to prove it caused the issue. they can simply say that it did and that's it. Mag law is written in somewhat of a vague language that the dealer can easily win if they say it caused it.

Mods are different than replacement parts and thats what dealer can use as a reason to void warranty. They will have harder time voiding warranty on OE like replacement but if you replaced it with a performance parts some dealers can pull BS and say your warranty is void even though the mod is proven to be safe.

That official document says if this x failure occurs, check for these x aftermarket parts and they could have been the cause. All they have to say is this part caused the failure. Its one thing if your car isnt getting any boost and you have an aftermarket intake of intercooler, they could blame those mods. But if everything is installed properly (no loose hoses) and the parts are from quality vendors (no ebay), they cant argue. Its common sense.
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