Rumor - The GT500 thread

[Cloak]

any mention of all wheel drive?

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[Myshelby3425]

DISCLAIMER: Not gospel, just rumors.

So I met with my brother in law today for unrelated business. He is a Ford Regional Manager (who has a background with SVT, then Ford Racing on the Sprint Cup side, and now acts as a consultant to Ford Performance) and for what it's worth, he said he and 9 other guys were recently invited to a supplemental type Ford Performance meeting where there was an open Q&A discussion forum and the invitees were able to view a prototype/preproduction motor that was on display of the upcoming GT500, and they were also able to view some early concepts of what the car may look like.

Here are the key takeaways that he mentioned:

What he saw: a Direct Injection 5.0 w/ Twin Turbo powerplant, but the word 'EcoBoost' was not used at all in describing the motor. No specs on the motor but the snails looked relatively small. The concepts of the car looked 'amazing' and featured wider rear fenders along with wider front fenders like the GT350, but the car was remarkably different and 'set apart' from the GT350 look and style. Also it sounds like Ford Performance is tinkering with different boost levels depending on the performance setting (sport, track, race)

Also Ford is supposedly going to utilize a heavy use of aluminum and carbon composite materials throughout the car with very little traditional sheetmetal.

It definitely sounds like this car won't be a 2017MY but possibly 2018. No word on Horsepower or Torque numbers, no word on Transmission either. Personally I think even a modest horsepower number and the additional weight savings should give the Hellcat nightmares.

Anyways just take this all with a grain of salt he wasn't even suppose to tell anybody. Also all mobile devices were taken prior to the small meeting and everybody signed some sort of confidentially document.

And your posting this on here and speaking of his title?

Thanks for the info though.


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[Nataphen]

It won't be a 2017 because the GT350 is running through that MY at least, but the info seems plausible. Pretty much along the lines of what most people have been guessing.

 

[TheDivaDanielle]

And your posting this on here and speaking of his title?

Thanks for the info though.


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:cheers::doh:

 

[fuhrius]

DISCLAIMER: Not gospel, just rumors.

So I met with my brother in law today for unrelated business. He is a Ford Regional Manager (who has a background with SVT, then Ford Racing on the Sprint Cup side, and now acts as a consultant to Ford Performance) and for what it's worth, he said he and 9 other guys were recently invited to a supplemental type Ford Performance meeting where there was an open Q&A discussion forum and the invitees were able to view a prototype/preproduction motor that was on display of the upcoming GT500, and they were also able to view some early concepts of what the car may look like.

Here are the key takeaways that he mentioned:

What he saw: a Direct Injection 5.0 w/ Twin Turbo powerplant, but the word 'EcoBoost' was not used at all in describing the motor. No specs on the motor but the snails looked relatively small. The concepts of the car looked 'amazing' and featured wider rear fenders along with wider front fenders like the GT350, but the car was remarkably different and 'set apart' from the GT350 look and style. Also it sounds like Ford Performance is tinkering with different boost levels depending on the performance setting (sport, track, race)

Also Ford is supposedly going to utilize a heavy use of aluminum and carbon composite materials throughout the car with very little traditional sheetmetal.

It definitely sounds like this car won't be a 2017MY but possibly 2018. No word on Horsepower or Torque numbers, no word on Transmission either. Personally I think even a modest horsepower number and the additional weight savings should give the Hellcat nightmares.

Anyways just take this all with a grain of salt he wasn't even suppose to tell anybody. Also all mobile devices were taken prior to the small meeting and everybody signed some sort of confidentially document.

Apparently, folks who *sign* confidentiality agreements rarely *read* confidentiality agreements.

 

[PP0001]

It won't be a 2017 because the GT350 is running through that MY at least, but the info seems plausible. Pretty much along the lines of what most people have been guessing.

Help me understand why the GT350 and GT500 could not be produced during the same MY in 2017?

It certainly worked very well for 4 years back in the 60's and as recent as 2012 and 2013 both the GT500 and the Boss 302 models ran during the same model years?

Would it not seem appropriate to have a 50th Anniversary GT500 for the 2017MY?

:shrug:

 

[Nataphen]

Take it for what it's worth, but 2018 GT500 news

Ford Performance officials have said that they won't produce two Shelbys at once. I don't see why not, but that's what they've stated.

 

[PP0001]

Ford Performance officials have said that they won't produce two Shelbys at once. I don't see why not, but that's what they've stated.

Haven't heard that one before but if that is what Ford is stating I guess a 2017 GT500 will not be produced assuming there will still be 2017 GT350's being assembled?

:cheers:

 

[Nataphen]

Maybe they'll make a limited number of late 2017s like the 2015 GT350.

 

[cosmo]

I'm gonna guess this is the "Voodoo Upgrade" we heard about, whether or not the details of your rumor are true remains to be seen. I could see Ford doing away with the 350 after 2017MY, and having a refresh of the Mustang in 2018MY with the GT500 instead if the statement about not having more than one Shelby model in production is true. Leaves a void for a true track model though.

 

[BmacIL]

DISCLAIMER: Not gospel, just rumors.

So I met with my brother in law today for unrelated business. He is a Ford Regional Manager (who has a background with SVT, then Ford Racing on the Sprint Cup side, and now acts as a consultant to Ford Performance) and for what it's worth, he said he and 9 other guys were recently invited to a supplemental type Ford Performance meeting where there was an open Q&A discussion forum and the invitees were able to view a prototype/preproduction motor that was on display of the upcoming GT500, and they were also able to view some early concepts of what the car may look like.

Here are the key takeaways that he mentioned:

What he saw: a Direct Injection 5.0 w/ Twin Turbo powerplant, but the word 'EcoBoost' was not used at all in describing the motor. No specs on the motor but the snails looked relatively small. The concepts of the car looked 'amazing' and featured wider rear fenders along with wider front fenders like the GT350, but the car was remarkably different and 'set apart' from the GT350 look and style. Also it sounds like Ford Performance is tinkering with different boost levels depending on the performance setting (sport, track, race)

Also Ford is supposedly going to utilize a heavy use of aluminum and carbon composite materials throughout the car with very little traditional sheetmetal.

It definitely sounds like this car won't be a 2017MY but possibly 2018. No word on Horsepower or Torque numbers, no word on Transmission either. Personally I think even a modest horsepower number and the additional weight savings should give the Hellcat nightmares.

Anyways just take this all with a grain of salt he wasn't even suppose to tell anybody. Also all mobile devices were taken prior to the small meeting and everybody signed some sort of confidentially document.

I can tell you without violating a confidentiality agreement I signed that what he "saw" for the powertrain is inaccurate.

 

[mattlqx]

One wouldn't be simply seeing concept drawings now if it was to be a MY2017 vehicle. These things don't happen overnight. There would be plenty of spy shots of a mule for something that drastic of a change well in advance of a year from availability.

Obviously Ford is working on something, but I wouldn't expect it until MY2018 or later. There's no reason for them to rush a GT500-successor to market when the GT350 is still fresh. And before you say overlap, that's true but the performance market isn't very big relative to the vehicle market overall. They'd be silly to cannibalize the momentum this early on a still new platform.

 

[5.2 VooDoo]

Help me understand why the GT350 and GT500 could not be produced during the same MY in 2017?

It certainly worked very well for 4 years back in the 60's and as recent as 2012 and 2013 both the GT500 and the Boss 302 models ran during the same model years?

Would it not seem appropriate to have a 50th Anniversary GT500 for the 2017MY?

:shrug:

I'm going to suggest that with the current state of affairs, reading the posts about the wrong spoilers being put on cars, cooling ducts with block off covers instead of proper flow through ones, broken tabs on front bumper covers that maybe they might want to rethink adding a further challenge to the assembly line. :shrug:

 

[GTA Mustang]

I'm going to suggest that with the current state of affairs, reading the posts about the wrong spoilers being put on cars, cooling ducts with block off covers instead of proper flow through ones, broken tabs on front bumper covers that maybe they might want to rethink adding a further challenge to the assembly line. :shrug:

I have 2 of those 3 issues in one car. Am I lucky! It must be hard to keep track of 3 varieties of the same product at the same time! :ford:

 

[CommyO]

I doubt it'll be 'ecoboost' since that implies it is economically friendly which all turbo cars aren't but I'm at least hoping it's a twin turbo v8 or a v6. It'd be nice to see something different other than the SC. 10 speed auto and mag ride would also be nice and would bring progress to the mustang

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