Hack
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I disagree with almost everything you've said. From the perspective of a guy born before 1970, I don't think that's quite "old guy" territory yet. More like 1960 IMO.Not JUST old guys in general, specifically old guys born pre-1970. That was the Corvette's market demographic, and as time has gone on, the sales numbers have declined, while the demographic has stayed mostly the same. The main people who want Corvettes are the people who grew up with them being the top of the game. Most younger people see the GTR in that position. And speaking of the GTR...
The GTR is considered by many as the "civic of supercars". Even at 10 years stagnant, the GTR still sells a decent amount for a $100k+ car. This year, Chevy sold less than 10,000 Corvettes. If they could even sell 20,000 at at least $100k per unit, that's a MASSIVE increase. Hell, they could sell about 10k of them, and if they keep the profit margin the same, it would still be more profitable. I'm thinking the plan is to keep the Camaro in the under-$100k price range and bump the Corvette up to a more "exotic" market
Oh, I definitely agree! If it comes in at $60k like some people think, I'll be the first in line to put it in the garage next to my Mustang! But the realist in me says that the chances of a mid engine-aluminum-construction monocoque chassis with a 500+hp V8 and 9 speed DCT in it isn't going to be cheap. if you just ignore the name "corvette" for a second, $60 seems extremely unrealistic
The GTR doesn't sell much. I don't know what young people think, but I see a lot more young guys in 'vettes than in GTRs. I rarely even see a GTR around here. And that's what I'm talking about. In the middle of the country where I live, $100k is more money than most people will spend.
I don't think mid-engine necessarily makes a car more expensive to build. Look at the Porsche Cayman. Yes DCTs are expensive, but I'm not planning to buy a car with a DCT. If GM doesn't make a manual transmission version of the C8, I will never own a C8. It's that simple.
I really hope GM doesn't try to make the C8 into a Porsche with a high end interior and raise the price $20k to compensate. I hope it's more like the current/past 'vettes with a somewhat creaky and cheap interior and an awesome drivetrain. Otherwise GM might lose their buyers.Honestly, I'll be severely disappointed if this car performs like the C7GS... I'm expecting it to perform more around Z06-level (with exception to 1/4 mile time, however, it will likely be dead center between the Z06 and GS with increased grip from weight distribution and the power bump) with an even more upscale interior. Also, keep in mind that we've been seeing this car with an electronically retractable targa top... that kind of stuff adds cost. If that's standard on the car, that and the power bump alone could warrant $6k on just a C7 platform. Combine that with the platform, transmission, interior, etc. and it seems to get more unrealistic.
i don't mean to doubt you, as you are the one who knows a lot of inside GM info, but if Chevy can somehow make this car for $60k, then I'm not confident that it will be high quality, durable, or that great to drive. Maybe the chassis issues they've been having are indicative of that...
Every car manufacturer wants to irritate the people that bought in the last 2 years by improving their latest vehicles. That's how they get people to keep buying new cars. If the new cars aren't better than last year's models, why buy?I'd have to agree a little with this but most Chevy dealers are always over stocked on Corvettes....simply put they over produce them.
I see the new C8 going in the opposite direction. In other words they almost have to make it over 100K to give it an "exclusive feel" and not to piss off people who just paid 85K or so for a Z06 in the last 2 years.
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