Rumor - The GT500 thread

[Doc Holliday]

No disrespect to S197 GT500 owners, but logically with the improved platform of the S550, the next GT500 should get an automatic ride and handling upgrade.

Absolutely. No offense taken. Which is why I think that for the next GT500 they should focus on building power and getting that power to the ground in an effective manner. Leave the road course handling duties to the GT350.

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[FreddyG]

Absolutely. No offense taken. Which is why I think that for the next GT500 they should focus on building power and getting that power to the ground in an effective manner. Leave the road course handling duties to the GT350.

I like your way of thinking! :cheers:

 

[Falc'man]

Ford's findings for n.a. engines is the bore/stroke ratio is 1.2:1, or oversquare.
Their findings for forced inductions engines is 0.8:1 for the bore/stroke ratio, or undersquare.

For f.i. engines they found the sweet spot to be between 0.5-0.6 litres per cylinder.
Nothing was said in relation to cubes per cylinder for atmo engines.

Sure, the aftermarket will always cater for those who want to f.i. their 5.2, but if Ford were to tt the Coyote platform look out for less cubes, and thicker wall cylinders for the higher pressures.

4.7 (289ci) sounds nice.

 

[Twin Turbo]

Often thought a 4.7/289 twin turbo would make a great engine in the GT to replace the n/a 5.0...........but I'm wondering how that would go down as a new GT500 engine? Despite twin turbos, from a bench racing perspective, you'd expect the GT500 to have that same, if not more cubes that the 5.0 GT.

However, I'd much rather Ford went that route than the 3.5 V6 Ecoboost........

 

[Falc'man]

Often thought a 4.7/289 twin turbo would make a great engine in the GT to replace the n/a 5.0...........but I'm wondering how that would go down as a new GT500 engine? Despite twin turbos, from a bench racing perspective, you'd expect the GT500 to have that same, if not more cubes that the 5.0 GT.

However, I'd much rather Ford went that route than the 3.5 V6 Ecoboost........

With Ecoboost tech applied to 4.7 litres there's no need to worry. We already know the 3.5 is over 600hp. As a rough guide using the same specific power a 4.7 would be way over 800hp, but the torque curve would be the real story.

If they stick to supercharging then yes, they need a lot of cubes.

 

[SynisterGT]

I'll take a 5.0 TT ecoboost pushing 700+hp/600+tq.

If they can keep the weight down it wI'll be awesome.

 

[SVTFreak]

The GT500 thread

I'll take a 5.0 TT ecoboost pushing 700+hp/600+tq.



If they can keep the weight down it wI'll be awesome.

Don't bet on it. The gt500 has never been about keeping weight down and stellar road course performance.

Give me a TT 5.2, all forged and a DCT, and big big brakes, fully loaded with all bells and whistles (no ACC, park assist, or rain sensing wipers and make recaros an option so I don't have to get)and I'll be first in line!

 

[Tom]

Don't bet on it. The gt500 has never been about keeping weight down and stellar road course performance.

Give me a TT 5.2, all forged and a DCT, and big big brakes, fully loaded with all bells and whistles (no ACC, park assist, or rain sensing wipers and make recaros an option so I don't have to get)and I'll be first in line!

Man your picky. LOL

 

[9secondko]

Don't bet on it. The gt500 has never been about keeping weight down and stellar road course performance.

Give me a TT 5.2, all forged and a DCT, and big big brakes, fully loaded with all bells and whistles (no ACC, park assist, or rain sensing wipers and make recaros an option so I don't have to get)and I'll be first in line!

Something tells me the next gt500 will be trying harder than ever before to keep the weight down and the handle like a slot car.

start with the gt350, Lower the compression, etc. Ecoboost it (800+ hp) and end up with the best of both worlds.

Zero reason why not.

Sure the weight will go up a little for the turbos and supporting hardware.

But doesn't have to be much.

And then curbstomp the heck out of most cars on the road, track, and strip. Lol

 

[DavisCustoms]

Why not try to match the 2014 Shelby GT1000 (950hp) and GT1000S/C (1100hp)?

Personally, i'm hoping for the 5.0TT or a 7.1L NA (stroked 6.2/429CI)

just my two cents.

 

[DJGold]

100% sure they will use the 3.5 V6 TT from the Ford GT. Ford will cut all V8s from their cars by 2020. It's the way of the future, don't cry about it.

 

[Tcnarber]

Can someone explain the main differences in the Mustang, the Mustang GT350, and GT500? Not in detail but high level.

 

[FPCV8YO]

Can someone explain the main differences in the Mustang, the Mustang GT350, and GT500? Not in detail but high level.

Old school, it was GT350 = small block and GT500 = big block.

 

[Doc Holliday]

The original 1965-66 Shelby Mustangs were GT350's. The whole purpose of their production initially was for homologation into a road racing series where they successfully competed against Corvettes, Jaguar E-type, and other makes of sports cars. They were equipped with 289 ci small blocks. These cars were designed for road course racing, and they did this very well. There is a ton of interesting reading on this subject available in print and on the net.

The GT500 was later developed and released in 1967. In contrast to the GT350, it was not developed for any specific racing class. It came with a 428 ci engine (some debate whether the FE engines were big blocks or 'medium' blocks, but that's another discussion) and came with enhanced creature comforts, like leather and an otherwise upgraded interior. GT350's starting later followed the trend of the GT500 with more attention to comfort and became less of a "street-legal race car."

So in essence, the original GT350 was a stripped out race car designed for road course racing, and the GT500 was a powerful, comfortable street cruiser.

 

[Twin Turbo]

100% sure they will use the 3.5 V6 TT from the Ford GT. Ford will cut all V8s from their cars by 2020. It's the way of the future, don't cry about it.

Oh, but I will cry about it! Whilst I have no doubt the 3.5 V6 TT in the new GT will be an amazing engine (and it's NOT the same as the 3.5 V6 TT in the rest of the line up, it's a race car engine - just in case some aren't aware)......I want.......no, I DEMAND that GT500 uses a blown V8.

The end doesn't have to be nigh for the V8. As has been said, downsize it, if needs be (4.0-4.7 litres)......but it's needs that badass V8 soundtrack.

Don't underestimate people-power. Remember when the Probe was going to be the new Mustang? Enough people said "NO WAY" that Ford listened.

Let's hope they are listening (and reading) now.

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