pistol carry

[K4fxd]

But some of the magic that the US used to have for me has disappeared.

That's because our young people are embracing socialism, but that's a topic not for this forum.

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[GJarrett]

...Now imagine you live in a country where you were more likely to be killed by a lump of ice from an airplane toilet than someone trying to take your life.
That's what makes it so sad that some of you even have to think about carrying a gun to feel safe...

...Is it freedom if you can be sure you need a gun?
The perspective is the issue, nobody needs a gun here, if you needed one because there's so much riff-raff running around, something would be wrong.
If the US would fix its society and social system, you wouldn't need guns, not even in the worst neighborhoods. Some would call that socialism, for us it's liberty...

Actually you've just stated support for the real reason that the US is fixated on gun rights, in a backhanded way. So thank you.

This off-the-rails topic also went way off the focus of "why" in the first place. Our gun rights are based on the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution which gives us the right to bear arms. The reason for the 2nd Amendment has nothing at all to do with self protection or sporting purposes. If you study history you will learn that it's purpose is to protect our rights from all enemies, foreign and domestic. That is targeted specifically towards groups, institutions, governments, etc that would take away our rights as U.S citizens. THAT is why we have the right to bear arms. By the way, in following the same logic, the original intent to follow through with that protection is that we also have access to weaponry equal to the government's weaponry - which does include machine guns, etc.

Your own country is a perfect example. You stated "no one needs a gun here" when your own country in just the past century has a history clearly showing what happens when its citizens are disarmed, and six million of them got murdered. Ditto countless other regimes that disarmed their citizenry and what happens afterward, here's a partial list from just the last century:

• 1911: Turkey; citizens disarmed – 1.5 million Armenians were slaughtered
• 1929: Russia; citizens disarmed – 20 million Russians murdered
• 1935: China; citizens disarmed – 20 million Chinese killed
• 1938: Germany; citizens disarmed – 6 million Jews murdered
• 1956: Cambodia; citizens disarmed – 1 million “intellectuals” killed
• 1964: Guatemala; citizens disarmed – 100,000 Mayan Indians massacred
• 1970: Uganda; citizens disarmed – 300,000 Christians put to death

You are entitled to your opinion that "no one needs a gun here" (I disagree with that considering the recent crimes inflicted upon your citizens as a result of your immigration policy; I'll bet they wished they were armed before they were raped/killed/etc). Here, everyone needs a gun here, because we know if we don't, we are at danger of joining the list above. A secondary (not primary) advantage to that is on a more microcosmic level, any thug that wants to take away my right to live has a chance at receiving the same treatment an evil regime would try to inflict on me.

 

[shogun32]

That's what makes it so sad that some of you even have to think about carrying a gun to feel safe.

There isn't an iota of feelings involved. It's a cold, calculated risk response. And even if you want to shove binders full of papers under our noses declaring probabilities, it doesn't matter. Because the value is not zero. Crime tends to be highly spontaneous.

Have you had the muzzle of an AR-15 ten inches from your face?

 

[GJarrett]

...Have you had the muzzle of an AR-15 ten inches from your face?

I'm guessing probably not, but the grandparents of his own country's fellow citizenry did have the muzzles of Lugers and Mausers shoved in their faces, many of which were then used.

 

[shogun32]

use this saying for tools; I can rule out ever having to use it with a weapon

One day soon one of your precious immigrants will change your mind. Your countrymen have already been assaulted, fondled, raped and killed while you stood around unable and unwilling to respond.

Go ahead preach about how your social programs are gonna reduce crime. Go ask a Swede how well that's working out for them.

We've spent something like 6 trillion dollars bribing a certain strata of society to behave and feel the generosity. Funny thing. They still prefer to commit felonies when it suits them.

 

[Luckylady527]

I sure feel safer driving to work early in the morning thru the streets of Phoenix with my Glock 43x!!

 

[Bob Lob Law]

The opinion of foreigners on the subject means less than 0 to me!

 

[Buldawg76]

If I wanted/needed to carry a weapon, I would have a lockable gun compartment installed in the door panel.
At least to lock it, if I need to leave it in the car.

e.g.

I could open that so called secure storage compartment in less the 5 seconds and have anything that is inside it. There is nothing or nowhere you can secure a gun in a vehicle that a determined criminal cannot access in a very short time frame. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens only makes criminals bolder and able to prey on the law abiding without fear for their safety.

It is what the 3% of all colonists that settled in America almost 250 years ago fought and died for to give us the freedoms we now have, I am sad for any other country that do not have the brave and courageous patriots willing to give their all to protect the freedoms we fought for so many years ago and still to this day fight to preserve at this very moment.

Had our brave people not fought for our freedoms you would not have the country to live in that you have today, so think about that for a moment.

No thank you is required.

BD

 

[Ole Texan]

Wake up Admin, how long will you allow this bull chit political thread to continue?
Poor reflection on the forum!

 

[Hidalgo]

I don't carry a full size pistol anywhere. Compact frames for me. And, honestly, the older I get the less I like the larger calibers anyway. But that's another discussion.
To answer your question I'll either have it sit atop the drivers seatbelt buckle or I tuck it between the passenger seat and center console. I've debated trying to figure out a mounted type of thing for it but haven't seen any that I like.

 

[Hidalgo]

On my hip, where I can get to it fast.

 

[SheepDog]

I'm jealous you live in a civilized country, as it is with most of Europe, where 50% of the population doesn't base their self worth or cokk size on how many guns they own, or feel the need to carry a gun on their person.

What are you gun carriers so afraid of that you actually carry a loaded weapon in your car?

That's rich, coming from someone who lives in or near one of the most historically violent and crime ridden cities on Earth.

Having a gun is like having a fire extinguisher. Hopefully you never need to use it, but damn if you need one and don't have it.

Guns aren't going away in this country. It is physically impossible to remove every firearm or round of ammunition from circulation. Not to mention the fact that if the Govment" actually tried to enforce a no gun policy, and tried to round them up and take them from everyone- only the law abiding citizens would give them up, and all the people doing crimes with guns would still have them.

Bad guys will always do bad things, and a gun is a great tool for that.

Good guys should and will always have the right to defend themselves and their families. Since the bad guys will always have guns, do you think that the good guys shouldn't?

To the OP, obviously starting a conversation anywhere in the realm of a topic as polarizing as this one, does not belong on a car forum. Sure, you just wanted some ideas on how to carry your pistol but as you can see, everyone gets all political and whiny and bitchy. Quietly search the interwebz for your own solution.

 

[SheepDog]

Let's just ban all motor vehicles since they kill more people than guns ever have from drunk drivers, distracted drivers, inexperience drivers etc, then we don't need to discuss carrying a gun in a vehicle since we will no longer have any to drive and carry in. They are also just tools that humans use to perform everyday tasks like thousands of other tools that have the ability to injure and kill people.

What a wonderful world we would have with no tool of any kind that could harm or kill a human, I think the boredom would get rid of the ignorant and stupid naive population sooner than the brave and people with good common sense so then we would only have responsible law abiding people left.

One can only dream.

BD

Probably need to add alcohol and tobacco to that list. Since people can't be trusted to make their own decisions, Uncle Sam should protect us all, right @Spartan1 ?

"I'm from the Government, and Im hear to help"

 

[Buldawg76]

Probably need to add alcohol and tobacco to that list. Since people can't be trusted to make their own decisions, Uncle Sam should protect us all, right @Spartan1 ?

"I'm from the Government, and Im hear to help"

I knew I forgot something else to put on that list.
And drugs.

BD

 

[GJarrett]

...If the US would fix its society and social system, you wouldn't need guns, not even in the worst neighborhoods. Some would call that socialism, for us it's liberty...

I do agree with this portion of your opinion. In my lifetime I've watched my country completely change and not for what I think is the better. As a point of reference, when I was a teenager in high school many of our trucks still had visible gun racks with shotguns and rifles on them and we'd go hunting after school. No one was ever hurt and no mass shootings ever happened at all back then. The guns were never the problem, something else has changed here and it ain't the guns.

I'll be off now, I agree this thread may have gotten sidetracked just a little too much and I'm as guilty as anyone. Peace.

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