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Think it's worth it to get the PP on a GT 6 sp manual that'll be a daily driver?

For the money, I'm not sure I'd see the value. May be best just to add on larger wheels and be done with it. Save some $$$.

As 'passionate' as I am about driving, I don't think I see the benefits of it through regular driving.

Plus, no spare tire. What do you do? I don't think it has run flats, does it?
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No run flats. I know it comes with a fix a flat kit but I just pay $20 a year for AAA and I'm covered.

My opinion of PP as daily driver is this.

I you truly appreciate performance then get it. If you just roll through the gears normally and keep the RPMs down you will hardly notice if at all a loss of mpg. Personally I think babying it would net better or same since the car is geared low and will accelerate easily without much throttle. Highway driving will obviously loose a little due to RPM at highway speed.

Now suspension may be slightly stiffer but I doubt it will be night and day stiffer to the point you wish you didn't get it

You never want to be in the "I wish I got this or which I did that" frame of mind. Bottom line I believe the PP will be so much fun and even dd will be great.




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The main two reasons I want the Performance Pack on My Eco-Boost Coupe are the Oil Pressure and Boost Gages with the Engine Turned Dash Trim and the GT Spec Front Brakes.
 

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The main two reasons I want the Performance Pack on My Eco-Boost Cope are the Oil Pressure and Boost Gages with the Engine Turned Dash Trim and the GT Spec Front Brakes.
I'm guessing the base GT brakes will be available pretty reasonably as "Take-Offs" from various places.

I'm also guessing someone will be packaging the OE Ford parts as an "DASH & GAUGE KIT" within a year or so as I can see this being a popular up-grade for cars without ... both EB & GT. I'd guess the GT gauges could be adapted to the V6 too.

The "engine turned" look is much better looking to me than the brushed but don't want the PP on a Daily Driver & the added gauges.

I've been looking at a "brushed dash" for 4 years in my 2011 and think all the other special variations of '10-14 (GT500, GT/CS, Boss302) look much better. On a 2010-14 dash, there are 5 separate pieces and two are part of the passenger air-bag assembly ... I'm sure some out there have up-graded their dashes, but there is no simple "kit".

On a 2015, there are only 3 separate dash pieces and the passenger air-bag is no longer integrated into it so I'd think it would be much easier to market as a kit.

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The main two reasons I want the Performance Pack on My Eco-Boost Cope are the Oil Pressure and Boost Gages with the Engine Turned Dash Trim and the GT Spec Front Brakes.
Is that only premium ecoboost? And I'm torn between the gt and ecoboost should I save more money for the base gt or could I just aftermarket the ecoboost pp/recaro to gt numbers??
 

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Is that only premium ecoboost? And I'm torn between the gt and ecoboost should I save more money for the base gt or could I just aftermarket the ecoboost pp/recaro to gt numbers??
Just like the GT, you can get the PP with Base EB or Premium EB.

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I know both get the option, I was thinking both were a little different but I guess not. Does anyone have any guesses so what kind of aftermarket hp/tq can be put on the EB or will time tell
 

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...and I'm torn between the gt and ecoboost should I save more money for the base gt or could I just aftermarket the ecoboost pp/recaro to gt numbers??
I'm sure that the aftermarket will help the EB get GT numbers in a straight line. Piggybacks/ECU tunes are going to be popular. You should take the intangibles into account, like the exhaust note. That's something I can't do without.
 

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Think it's worth it to get the PP on a GT that'll be a daily driver?

For the money, I'm not sure I'd see the value. May be best just to add on larger wheels and be done with it. Save some $$$.

As 'passionate' as I am about driving, I don't think I see the benefits of it through regular driving.

Plus, no spare tire. What do you do? I don't think it has run flats, does it?
most definitely! There are plenty of winding roads out here in North TX along with some hilly country ones too! Not to mention dodging some of these slower cars around that you would swear you were on the set of Need for Speed...lol I like to have a firm feel of the car to the road and not too keen on slushy suspensions. It maybe one of those things that you found not to get as a daily driver but somewhere down the line when a situation arose... Damn, I wish I had that performance package....lol
I like the wheels too other than not having a spare tire is no big deal I have never used my spare tires or had an absolute need of the spare tire.... There maybe that one day but proper tire maintenance goes a long way
 

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Think it's worth it to get the PP on a GT that'll be a daily driver?

For the money, I'm not sure I'd see the value. May be best just to add on larger wheels and be done with it. Save some $$$.

As 'passionate' as I am about driving, I don't think I see the benefits of it through regular driving.

Plus, no spare tire. What do you do? I don't think it has run flats, does it?
I was thinking of asking this very question. I will never track my new '15 GT, but I would like the bigger brakes. Does all the other benefits make it ride like a "sport suspension"? Or is only added stuff to allow you to "beat the heck" out of your car on the track? Also, I thought the engine turn up on the aluminum dash was with the GT Premium - is it the Performance Pack that adds that?
 

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I'm sure that the aftermarket will help the EB get GT numbers in a straight line. Piggybacks/ECU tunes are going to be popular. You should take the intangibles into account, like the exhaust note. That's something I can't do without.
Yeah no doubt, going to just test drive both
 

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Depends how good the roads are where you live, I personally probably pushed the limits as I ordered the PP as a daily in Michigan, the roads are horrendous. I've always been a performance junkie, I appreciate the sportier/stiffer handling and suspension, so I went along with it. This will be driven all year around, I have money set aside for winter tires and wheels already as well.
 

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You did not mention if you are getting the 6 speed manual either way.
The lack of PP with the automatic is a problem for me because I have a knee injury from my motocross days that will cause me problems for the rest of my life.

One thing to look real hard at is the stiffness of the PP car -vs- the normal GT.
If it is quite a bit stiffer, that might be a deal killer for you. No way to tell until you can test drive one of each flavor.

Another item that can potentially be a big cost item is the tires.
Summer compound tires do not like temperatures below 40 deg., which means us people who live in 2/3 of the country that see lower Winter temperatures will need to spend money to get Winter or All Weather tires. Additionally, if you replace the tires with the same brand and model, it will cost you $300+ if you buy thru TireRack and who knows how much if you go to the local tire store.
An issue that combines the lack of spare with the specialized 19" tires is if you actually destroy a tire, keep in mind that it could take several days (or longer) to obtain a replacement tire. If the car is your daily driver it could be a real problem.
Try calling your boss and saying "I can't come in to work for the next three days because one of the tires on my car blew out".
Same with the wheels. It could be a bit of a wait 5 years down the road if you need a replacement for a wheel after trashing one.
Beware people who will say "No big deal, just spend more money now and buy a set of all season tires on an extra set of wheels so you can switch them out seasonally." Those people may have dollar bills spewing out of their butt's but I don't happen to be similarly blessed.

Bigger radiator doesn't matter one way or the other unless you will be doing track time.
The rear end gearing is pretty incremental and I can't see where it would even be something that you would notice once you get used to a specific highway RPM. It isn't like the old days when 4:11 gears with no overdrive were the performance option.
 

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You did not mention if you are getting the 6 speed manual either way.
The lack of PP with the automatic is a problem for me because I have a knee injury from my motocross days that will cause me problems for the rest of my life.

One thing to look real hard at is the stiffness of the PP car -vs- the normal GT.
If it is quite a bit stiffer, that might be a deal killer for you. No way to tell until you can test drive one of each flavor.

Another item that can potentially be a big cost item is the tires.
Summer compound tires do not like temperatures below 40 deg., which means us people who live in 2/3 of the country that see lower Winter temperatures will need to spend money to get Winter or All Weather tires. Additionally, if you replace the tires with the same brand and model, it will cost you $300+ if you buy thru TireRack and who knows how much if you go to the local tire store.
An issue that combines the lack of spare with the specialized 19" tires is if you actually destroy a tire, keep in mind that it could take several days (or longer) to obtain a replacement tire. If the car is your daily driver it could be a real problem.
Try calling your boss and saying "I can't come in to work for the next three days because one of the tires on my car blew out".
Same with the wheels. It could be a bit of a wait 5 years down the road if you need a replacement for a wheel after trashing one.
Beware people who will say "No big deal, just spend more money now and buy a set of all season tires on an extra set of wheels so you can switch them out seasonally." Those people may have dollar bills spewing out of their butt's but I don't happen to be similarly blessed.

Bigger radiator doesn't matter one way or the other unless you will be doing track time.
The rear end gearing is pretty incremental and I can't see where it would even be something that you would notice once you get used to a specific highway RPM. It isn't like the old days when 4:11 gears with no overdrive were the performance option.
I don't have money spewing out of my butt? I am only 19 years old and i've been working for 3 years saving every penny for a new performance car. You'll still have to buy new tires if you have difficult winters with the non-PP because the all-seasons that come standard with 90% of the vehicles do not handle snow as well as they are claimed. Blowing out a tire is very unlikely with todays standards of tire technology unless you hit a giant spike that you missed in the road. If you are worried about blowing out a winter tire from not hitting a spike, there are tire warranties for that. If you still are worried, buy a run-flat winter tire. Throwing money out the window by the way, Most good winter tires that are 250-300$ a tire come with a 40,000 mile warranty. That is 6 full winters if you drive about 6600 miles a winter. $200 a year roughly to insure you are safe in the winter is not bad. You also give more life to your other tires, if you have all season's, they wear out quite a bit faster, and the ones with huge warranties lack a lot of performance in which we want as Mustang owners.

Also note, people back in the 70's didn't have all of this technology to aid in "the horrible weather conditions" that both them and we have today. Most people nowadays are pansies. My dad drove his 84 corvette z51 package all year around with no problem. Everyone drove their cars all year around. If you are worrying about the snow stopping you because you are an inch lower to the ground with stiffer suspension, I can understand why someone would personally chose not to get the performance package, but do not biased-ly attempt to scare someone out of getting a package, thats not right. Also if you are replacing a tire properly and not just getting whatever tire fits right away, you would know that most tire stores do not carry every single tire/brand, they always have to be ordered. You would still be out of luck in most cases.
 

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Just pointing out some real world concerns so don't get a case of road rage on me.

Way too many people want something without thinking their desire thru long term.
The original poster has some legitimate concerns and I gave legitimate answers.

Hopefully you (on the other hand) show more maturity as the owner of a new Mustang than you are showing with your posts here.
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