True, how hard would it be to say in the SSM what the cause was. My theory is it's caused by some big rod end side clearances being slightly out of spec on some engines. If it was something like that and they said so, it would look bad and some people would probably be upset to hear something like that. Big rod ends randomly dancing side to side on the crank journal at low RPM isn't going to hurt anything, just make some ticking noises.Would be great if they said what it was. Their declaration that it's not detrimental suggests they must know otherwise they couldn't make such a statement.
My tick went away completely after I switched to Valvoline Extended Protection 5W30. But it was never a big deal anyway, I could only hear it occasionally if I really tried and was next to a wall or something. 5W20 to 5W30 isn't a huge increase in viscosity but it may mask a clearance issue like what you're describing, so there could be some merit to the theory.True, how hard would it be to say in the SSM what the cause was. My theory is it's caused by some big rod end side clearances being slightly out of spec on some engines. If it was something like that and they said so, it would look bad and some people would probably be upset to hear something like that. Big rod ends randomly dancing side to side on the crank journal at low RPM isn't going to hurt anything, just make some ticking noises.
I think it's more related to the friction level of the oil, but the viscosity can also play a role in terms of "cushioning" moving parts. That's why adding as little as 150 mL of Ceratec (a friction modifier) makes the ticking go away almost instantly due to the change in the friction level between moving parts. The way the rod big ends behave on the crank journals may be effected at lower RPM by the friction level of the oil. Some motor oils have better friction reducing additives (like Moly) than others, so using a motor oil with a relatively high Moly content may help reduce the ticking. My theory is that the way the rod big end moves around on the crank journal is effected by the friction level of the oil. And if the rod side clearance is on the max end of the clearance range, or slighlty out of spec, that magnifies the ticking.My tick went away completely after I switched to Valvoline Extended Protection 5W30. But it was never a big deal anyway, I could only hear it occasionally if I really tried and was next to a wall or something. 5W20 to 5W30 isn't a huge increase in viscosity but it may mask a clearance issue like what you're describing, so there could be some merit to the theory.
Valvoline EP has one of the highest moly counts out there so it definitely makes sense.I think it's more related to the friction level of the oil, but the viscosity can also play a role in terms of "cushioning" moving parts. That's why adding as little as 150 mL of Ceratec (a friction modifier) makes the ticking go away almost instantly due to the change in the friction level between moving parts. The way the rod big ends behave on the crank journals may be effected at lower RPM by the friction level of the oil. Some motor oils have better friction reducing additives (like Moly) than others, so using a motor oil with a relatively high Moly content may help reduce the ticking. My theory is that the way the rod big end moves around on the crank journal is effected by the friction level of the oil. And if the rod side clearance is on the max end of the clearance range, or slighlty out of spec, that magnifies the ticking.
Same! Ceratec is the way to go! Not only fixes the tick but I've gotten 1-2 better MPGs and I've seen lower CHTs while on the track. Good stuffI've been using Ceratec for over 4 years now in my 2020, it has worked great and stopped the tick completely and I have had 0 issues with the engine. Have about 35k miles on the car.
After reading countless articles, videos, forum posts, etc, I think everyone who's really bothered by the tick just needs to add some Ceratec at every oil change and their problems would go away.
Some Coyotes, regardless of the generation (the latest SSM 52334 shown above covers years 2011-2024), don't exhibit the ticking. So that also aligns with the ticking being caused by a parts tolerance stack-up.Mine has never done this. It's life has all been on Motorcraft oil until recently I put PUP in it.
Is the tick more common on Gen 1 and 3 than Gen 2 or does mine just not have it?