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yeah man, definitely thinking i’m gonna go habibi, check out his latest tune.
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You still using Diablosport ?
Yup. Best custom tune I ever had. AFAIK it's the fastest NA 15-22 Mustang around here. Not saying 'only' cause of the tune, cause obviously it's not. Most others use Lund / a local guy / PBD. The FI guys usually use whatever tune the SC was shipped with.
 

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Yup. Best custom tune I ever had. AFAIK it's the fastest NA 15-22 Mustang around here. Not saying 'only' cause of the tune, cause obviously it's not. Most others use Lund / a local guy / PBD. The FI guys usually use whatever tune the SC was shipped with.
What's your best 1/4 mile ET and MPH?

As the person managing the fast list these days, I'd like to see another fast NA car represented on it. I'm hoping to shoot for bottom 11s/high 10s NA soon once I get my e85 tune.

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I'm assuming yer popcorn is for you still running high 12s. That said, take a seat with it. The adults are talking.
 

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Waiting for you to show a time slip

I've said it often enough that my car is set up for road course. Not drags.
 

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It's nearly impossible to evaluate tuners based on the vehicle/motor output because there's simply way too many variables and it's never apples/apples.

We can certainly debate things like price and customer service, drivability and street manners, but when comparing dyno sheets between two tuners, in order to have an true comparison we'd need to know things like max timing, how much the knock sensors were adjusted, fuel trims, rpm limits, fuel quality, specific local conditions, etc, etc.

Two tuners equally capable and knowledgeable could come up with different outputs/total numbers just simply based on how much risk they're willing to accept, and we haven't even gotten to things like manipulating dyno results, (you know, moving the temp sensor to exaggerate the correction factor, forcing excessive wheel slip correction, using a lower smoothing factor to grab noise peaks, etc).

I've severely shorted my car (on purpose) to add much more reasonable safety factor for real world conditions. A hero run on a dyno is great for marketing and sales, or even a dedicated trailer queen that makes a 2 dozen cold condition passes a year, but in the real world, it's hot, fuel is imperfect, you have more weight/load in the car (passengers) you're doing rips right after heat soak (sitting at a stop light) or back to back to back. I honestly do not WANT the full sauce the car is capable of while sitting on a dyno.

In summary, I wouldn't select a tuner merely (or even primarily) based upon how much power you see on a dyno sheet. Any tuner can create a single, controlled, perfect dyno run that's likely to smoke the motor in the real world.

I'd focus more on things like accessibility and communication, price, streetability and drivable manners, etc.

The other place that most tuners separate themselves is with things surrounding shifting strategies and the overall setup with the transmission, etc.
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