oil temperature gauge

[luc]

Not really. People would obsess over temperature numbers being just a little over a number that sounded "too hot" to them.

A general indication here is good enough for most all driving purposes, short of tracking the car on a hot day (those people would be expected to understand what's going on better than most).


Norm

Well, that exactly what happened, tracking my car on a hot day (100*)
And I stand by my comment:
On a performance pack, meaning track pack, not having a calibration on a oil temp gauge IS stupid

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[Norm Peterson]

You mean that going from "at the end of the yellow" to "in the beginning of the red" isn't warning enough? Does it really matter if the boundary between the two is 275°, 279°, or 280°? Is the needle width and resolution even good enough for it to matter?


Norm

 

[DickR]

I have a real oil temp gauge (and also an aftermarket oil cooler) and on track at a very hot 90+ degree day, my 5W30 oil did not exceed 260* at worst, more around 220-240*.



The GT350 oil temp gauge is a calculated value; as is the virtual gauge on the dash. I had it and the calculated value is relatively accurate so long as you have not changed any element of your cooling system.


Run Liqui Moly 5W40 if you are tracking your car. That is what I did when I did not have an oil cooler (and got fast enough to worry about heat). Two oil tests with Blackstone Labs indicated it sheared VERY SLIGHTLY after 2-3 track days and 5K miles, but was otherwise still good to go. Car did not have an oil temp warning ever with that oil. I did get the warning with 5W20 in cooler ambient temps.

Where is the sensor for your aftermarket gauge when it and the virtual gauge read about the same?

Thanks!

 

[luc]

You mean that going from "at the end of the yellow" to "in the beginning of the red" isn't warning enough? Does it really matter if the boundary between the two is 275°, 279°, or 280°? Is the needle width and resolution even good enough for it to matter?


Norm

Norm:
I'm not going to get into a futile argument with you.
Not much I can do if you don't see or understand the value of knowing your oil temperature on a track car.
BTW, I have raced a lot of different cars over the years, from Formula V to Vintage Mustang to Trans Am and you know what.... they all had an oil temperature gauge..... wonder why......

 

[opengl]

Thought about doing that but a couple of dowside
Cost, with the core charge and shipping it's $600

https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/oem-parts/ford-gt350-gauges-fr3z10849e

$231 with no core

 

[Norm Peterson]

Norm:
I'm not going to get into a futile argument with you.
Not much I can do if you don't see or understand the value of knowing your oil temperature on a track car.
BTW, I have raced a lot of different cars over the years, from Formula V to Vintage Mustang to Trans Am and you know what.... they all had an oil temperature gauge..... wonder why......

I still think people are overestimating the need for such (implied) precision here. As long as you know where the red starts - and agree that it has been well-set - you should be perfectly fine.

Gauges with numbers in race cars always used to be set up such that their needles pointed straight up when what they were measuring was where that parameter was supposed to be running. Numbers weren't necessary then either, as a quick glance is all you should have been giving them. Upshift lights are available for the same reason.

Are we losing the ability to interpret analog displays?


Norm

 

[luc]

https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/oem-parts/ford-gt350-gauges-fr3z10849e

$231 with no core

thank you. much appreciated. Just placed the order

 

[luc]

I still think people are overestimating the need for such (implied) precision here. As long as you know where the red starts - and agree that it has been well-set - you should be perfectly fine.

Gauges with numbers in race cars always used to be set up such that their needles pointed straight up when what they were measuring was where that parameter was supposed to be running. Numbers weren't necessary then either, as a quick glance is all you should have been giving them. Upshift lights are available for the same reason.

Are we losing the ability to interpret analog displays?


Norm

You seems to be one of those person that always want to be right, regardless of the facts and always want have the last word
Re read my original post..... The only reason we know at what temperature the red start is because DickR was nice enough to post the info from the FSM...NOT because the gauge indicate it.
I'm done replying to you

 

[HoosierDaddy]

$600??

That's weird, unless Ford decided to more than triple the price due to demand.

I bought the GT350 center gauges for under $200 from Levitown with no core charge to put in my 2016 GT. But I sold it NIB for what I paid to another member because it didn't support MyColor plus was just a derived value like in the DIC.

 

[GreenS550]

I do know back in my big block ford days with a lot of clearance in the bearings to keep things loose (we did this back in the day) and high volume oil pumps were desired to flow a lot of oil cooling the bearings, etc, oil temperature was the best measure of the health of the engine. The 427 MR in my Galaxie would move practically like a tachometer in the 1/4 mile! It saved my engine once because just off idle it started to climb quickly. When I pulled the oil pan, a piece of gasket material got stuck on the pickup screen.
I installed one on my 2011 with a Roush and on repeated runs the oil would start to get pretty hot. At the end of the 1/4 mile the oil was hotter (not too hot) than before the run. Maybe 20 degrees warmer.
I think it's the most important gauge in the car and I, too, wish it had numbers not just "ranges". That said, the gauge I installed in my 2011 was in the drain plug. It read very quickly. It just changes the electrical resistance. Quick and accurate. I would think the oem sensor in the '15 up is just as good. In fact if it gets too hot it wouldn't surprise me if it would throw a check engine light.

 

[opengl]

I would think the oem sensor in the '15 up is just as good. In fact if it gets too hot it wouldn't surprise me if it would throw a check engine light.

As others have mentioned, there's no oil temp sensor. It's a calculated value based on run time, load, coolant temp, etc.

 

[DarkHor$e]

yes, gauges are around $250 and the core charges is $300
Since i would not be returning ( core) the same part #, i will not get the core back

I ordered mine from White Bear here on the forum. There was No Core charge. All in it was just a shade over 200. about 3 mos ago. I agree, they should be canted. Even the 340Z ones were in '72. Sometimes i wonder WTF these guys were thinking. But, still, you can read it at a glance.
And i agree the green-yellow-red gauge is shit.

 

[thehunterooo]

You can find these for pretty cheap from part outs on eBay when they come up. I get the oil temp on the 350 gauge cluster already though

 

[GT Pony]

Snipped from a thread about the same subject.

 

[69mach1-395]

Is that why our export cars don't have oil temp or pressure to be seen anywhere? Because it's just an estimate and might run foul of our laws.

Could be if that what your laws dictate...:cheers:

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