New owner, quick question about starting the car

[TexasRebel]

Usually, the "press the clutch" thing is a switch attached to the upper clutch arm. If you disconnect it, press the plunger in, and tape it that way, the car thinks the clutch is in and will be ab effective "bypass."

I did that on my 2002 Camaro SS. But there IS a downside. Had a friend who did the same to his Camaro SS and when he went to the dealer, they managed to start it in gear and hit a wall. Then they argued that he had disconnected a safety lockout and they weren't responsible. My solution to thatb one was to speak to the service manager on the ver few times I brough it to Chevrolet and tell him about the bypass so he could warn the mechanics. Never had the issue myself.

I'll likely try that when my 2019 Mustang GT fastback PP1 comes in about a month. Good luck!

That method also kills your cruise control and would activate no-lift-shift if the vehicle is equipped with it.

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[GregP27]

Didn't deactivate the cruise control in my 2002 Camaro SS. Will have to see about the 2019 Mustang. If so, I'm sure there is a work-around. It's only a digital system, and work-arounds are simple IF you can get the schematics. That may be problematic.

A no-lift shift will wreak havoc with the synchos in your manual transmission, even if the shift SEEMS smooth. That's a pretty well-known fact for the last 50 years, and I haven't heard of any new synchro breakthroughs that would mitigate it. Doesn't mean they haven't been invented, just means I haven't heard of them myself.

I am a fan of the racing air-assist shift buttons on competition motorcycles, but their transmissions are synchro-mesh and are ALWAYS in some gear, never between gears. A car isn't the same, the gears universally, at least on manual transmissions of which I am aware, use synchros to mesh the gears. They need the clutch to be used in order not to wear rather badly. But, hey, it's YOUR car, drive the way you want to drive it. If you never have the issue, then you're good to go. I confess I shifted my 6-speed 2002 Camaro S without the clutch on occasions, usually when I was alone on a nice smooth winding country road, but I didn't make a habit of it. Never had a synchro go out on me, but I sold it with 75,000 miles on the clock, so I suppose the new owner may find out down the road.

If you find a solution, please share it!

Cheers.

 

[TexasRebel]

1) The clutch cancels cruise control on manual vehicles. It's usually the top switch though, not the bottom. The bottom switch is the one needed to start the vehicle as it proves the clutch pedal is depressed. I'm surprised there is no code thrown when both switches are showing the presence of the clutch pedal (the vehicle thinks the clutch is both engaged and disengaged simultaneously).

2) That's not how no-lift-shift works on the S550. It's actually a feature. When the clutch comes off of the top switch the engine is limited to ~5,000 rpm so the operator doesn't have to lift the right foot, but just modulate the clutch. I'm not sure if they added it into the OE tune, but the Ford Racing Power Packs include the feature.

3) Unless you're driving something with an old top-loader your transmission is a constant-mesh transmission. If it happens to be synchronized (the S550 is fully synchronized) it is a synchro-mesh transmission. Motorcycles avoid synchronizers by using very coarse dogs that quite literally crash into place. These are colloquially called "crash boxes", and are a sequential constant-mesh transmission meaning you cannot skip gears. To shift from 6 to 1 you have to shift through 5-4-3-2-N. Unlike a car where you can shift straight from 6 through N to 1.

 

[Kmp013]

" No Lift" shifts are not clutch less shifts. It is when you don't lift the throttle and push in the clutch and shift gears and let out the clutch. The computer takes care of killing the throttle and then reapplying the throttle once the clutch is released.

 

[Five Red Lights]

I just had my manual 18 replaced with a manual 19 (engine failure) and noticed the 19 actually resumes cruise control speed after changing gears. By far my favourite update.
I’m in Australia so not sure whether it’s the same stateside? I think we have the equivalent of a 400a, powered Recaros etc.

 

[Zooks527]

I just had my manual 18 replaced with a manual 19 (engine failure) and noticed the 19 actually resumes cruise control speed after changing gears. By far my favourite update.
I’m in Australia so not sure whether it’s the same stateside? I think we have the equivalent of a 400a, powered Recaros etc.

It's the same in the US. Cancellation of cruise control with the clutch only occurs if you hold it down notably longer than it would take to shift. Cancellation of cruise control with the brake happens immediately.

 

[TexasRebel]

It's the same in the US. Cancellation of cruise control with the clutch only occurs if you hold it down notably longer than it would take to shift. Cancellation of cruise control with the brake happens immediately.

That would frustrate me to no end. I've been tapping the clutch pedal to cancel cruise control since I had my first vehicle with cruise control in 2002. Advantage: quick deactivation with no brake lights

 

[CycloneRy]

That would frustrate me to no end. I've been tapping the clutch pedal to cancel cruise control since I had my first vehicle with cruise control in 2002. Advantage: quick deactivation with no brake lights

Cncl button on the wheel does the same thing plus you don't have to move yer leg..

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