Mustang V8 vs Ecoboost

[Shadow277]

In absolute terms, you're correct, but this is a truism. In relative terms (i.e. lateral/vertical load), which is what we care about, you are not.

How do we calculate wbat is enough weight? Or do the Ford Engineers have that handled for us?

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[Shadow277]

Is that your final answer?

Too bad you don't have 1 mil to give me.

 

[Shadow277]

Yes, that's why those Cadillacs always outrun the Lotuses (Loti?).
And why people always rejoice when the new model gained weight over the old model.

I mean, Chevy is the best brand when it comes to racing.

 

[Norm Peterson]

How do we calculate wbat is enough weight?

Dunno . . . maybe when it's strong enough and rigid enough? Or maybe when it's a lb or two lighter than when the amount of weight starts being too much.


Norm

 

[Brian@BMVK]

How do we calculate wbat is enough weight? Or do the Ford Engineers have that handled for us?

OK so on this whole mass thing...

More load on the tires without more weight transfer is the goal, not more vehicle mass, because F=ma. That's why we want light cars with lots of aerodynamic downforce for racing.

Weight transfer limits total lateral force capability because the force vs load curve isn't linear, and the inside tire loses more force than the outside gains. This is why one must be careful on using too much swaybar: at some point you start unloading the tire significantly, in addition to having to fortify a chassis mounting structure to resolve those loads.

 

[shogun32]

Too bad you don't have 1 mil to give me.

you were at the 25,000 question level. You have to pass 16 more of Brian's questions.

But in the meantime here are your winnings.

 

[TeeLew]

How do we calculate what is enough weight? Or do the Ford Engineers have that handled for us?

That will be an issue of the compromise between cost, function & strength. The lighter the car, the higher lateral acceleration potential. This holds true at least to the level of go karts which often have kart+driver minimum weights below 300#.

F=ma.... It's not just a good idea, it's the law.

 

[shogun32]

F=ma.... It's not just a good idea, it's the law.

hey now, keep my Mum out of it and furthermore, *punch* how dare you talk that way about her!

 

[TeeLew]

I mean, Chevy is the best brand when it comes to racing.

They're good, but I'm more partial to ORECA.

 

[racingandfishing]

They're good, but I'm more partial to ORECA.

First to admit I had to google it.

https://www.oreca.com/en/accueil-en/

My wallet is not in the same league as those that play there!

 

[TeeLew]

First to admit I had to google it.

https://www.oreca.com/en/accueil-en/

My wallet is not in the same league as those that play there!

It's not like I own one, but I don't own a Chevy, either.

 

[Ewheels]

More weight means more grip.

It's posts like this that make me question why I keep coming back to this forum.

 

[TeeLew]

It's posts like this that make me question why I keep coming back to this forum.

On the bright side, it's not a popular opinion.

 

[Shadow277]

you were at the 25,000 question level. You have to pass 16 more of Brian's questions.

But in the meantime here are your winnings.

I don't accept the Russian currency. It's not allowed outside the USSR.

 

[Shadow277]

That will be an issue of the compromise between cost, function & strength. The lighter the car, the higher lateral acceleration potential. This holds true at least to the level of go karts which often have kart+driver minimum weights below 300#.

F=ma.... It's not just a good idea, it's the law.

Time to rip out the interrior and get rid of the spare tire.

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